Do women need to be broken before they understand?

@Arc "Personally, I believe every single woman deserves a man that treats her right and with admiration. If they don't, they need to get their ass kicked. I've gotten into fights over it, and so should you if you see a guy mistreating a woman. I think every woman, no matter what kind of hell she went through in previous relationships, has the ability to flower into something beautiful. " I like the sentiment, But I will have to disagree, a woman is no more entitled or deserving of a relationship than a guy and plenty of them cause drama in relationships themselves causing the hell they go through. To be with someone who is good to you almost necessitates having something to offer. And although they might have the ability to turn into a beautiful woman insides and out, many of them simply don't want to and never will.

excitement, thats true. i love excitement, i practicality wish someone would kill me because life is so boring. every day is exactly the same, i dont care who becomes president, it most likely a dumb nigger or cracker what i do care is if theres aliens, i know we came from them. there watching us, wondering why this world is rotating for killers, rapest, killers and rapest.

@blueroselover Yeah, it does take a lot of effort on both sides. If I put a lot of effort into the relationship and don't get anything back I just move on.

Looks like I missed a bit of drama. The "orgy or two under her belt" comment kinda bothered me. There seems to be a lot of guys here that hold that cliché concept of female purity and how girls who are sexually experienced are somehow corrupted dirty sluts or something. I personally find it ridiculous. I don't care if a girl slept with 1 or 5 or 500 people. As long as she isn't purposefully going around spreading STD's or prostituting to anybody then I don't really care. It doesn't factor into my decision to be with her or not. I know lots of girls who went through slutty stages when they were younger but are now in healthy long-term relationships. Including a girl I met when I moved in next door and got to know over time. She had been with around 30 people by the time she was 13 and started having sex at 10. Now she's married. You just have to watch for girls who use sex in an unhealthy way and who may be going through a period in their life where they don't know how to have a serious long-term healthy relationship. But you shouldn't judge them based only on how many people they been with.

Neko, you reminded me just now of a movie scene I've seen. And I agree. A woman's past is absolutely her business. If she chooses to share it with you and you try to make her feel bad for having had sex, you are being a piece of shit. As long as there are no STDs involved it is not your place to criticize her for not telling you. And it's never your place to put her down for her past relationships. You can be insecure or even upset about it, you're human. But keep it to yourself and do not put that on her. If you can't handle it leave. Let her find a man that can. Here it is. Silent Bob's speech from the movie "Chasing Amy" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlYZnd7dEPw

Lol, yeah. That probably hits the nail on the head. Guys have a tendency to feel insecure, and so feel like they may not be good enough to satisfy an experienced woman. But a virgin doesn't know any better, you are automatically the best she ever had because you are the only one she ever had. It's silly but some guys can think that way. Also, I've known guys that go after young virgins because many naïve young girls sometimes associate physical with emotional pleasure and automatically fall for the guy that takes their virginity. I've known guys that created their own mini-harems this way.

at least im not a virgin at age 30 but never had a girlfriend. having se is kinda dumb when you think about it,stick your cock in a girl and powned it. im making a cake...