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tornadomushroom
Your issue is that you're assuming that both Jean and I do not understand the reasoning for "SUICIDE" or why people may even try it. We may be ignorant but we are nowhere as ignorant as to believe that it's just a simple thing to do. NOTHING is simple, and that is why a person has to work their ass off. Thus, the point my sister made about being at rock bottom and climbing back up. Climbing isn't easy but unless you do it, you're not going to go anywhere. So before you start claiming our comments to be "Unbelievably ignorant", you should probably make sure yours isn't, because it clearly is. And yeah, someone taking their own life IS a pussy. Quitting at life because nothing is currently going your way is about as ignorant as it can already be. Expecting LIFE to be easy is ignorant also. So if you don't like what I have to say, just ignore what I say instead of trying to look like a hero by trying to pick apart what I've said and turn me into a jackass because it won't work.
thepwnographer
Sorry man, I wasn't trying to make you sound like a jackass, but I probably worded everything wrong. I don't want to argue, and in hindsight I probably shouldn't have made that post because you seem like a really respectable person and I don't want to fight with you. It wasn't supposed to be about me, and I made it that way; I just know a couple of people who have been contemplating suicide recently and I got too worked up and probably misunderstood the topic.
amrodcalanor
Oct 10, 13 at 2:14pm
Not once have I thought of killing myself. Instead I put all my effort into hanging out with friends and fixing life's problems. The effort you put into downing yourself is better put to improving your life. If you dont like your appearance, fix it. Go jogging, eat healthier, more frequent but in smaller quantities, drop and do some push-ups, pull-ups, sit-ups. Depression is the best motivation when it comes to exercise. Nothing in life is forced on you, you can brush it off. Problems at home? Move out, go live with other relatives or with a friend. Now I understand different people cope in different ways but you dont have to. Instead of cutting yourself, get a punching bag and BEAT THE LIVING HELL OUT OF IT. Stab it if you want to. Why would you hurt yourself when everything else in life is also hurting you? You're supposed to be your own savior. Anyways sorry if I came off in a wrong way. Didn't mean to disrespect anyone or w.e
bps
Oct 10, 13 at 5:06pm
First of all, I'd like to mention that as of now I'm not planning to end my life any time soon. Otherwise I wouldn't post on a dating site. However, I'm 41 already, and never in my life I felt like I truly belong here in this world. I'm quite sure that if tomorrow I found out that I've a terminal illness and I've to live 6 months at most, I would be more at peace. Probably I'd be even excited that this POINTLESS struggle is over and I can start the final planning / preparations. I'd probably start by making a testament to leave my humble savings to my favorite artist or artists (especially since, probably like almost everyone here, I wasn't able to buy every work that I downloaded Online). I've no big friends IRL nor Online. There are few ex-colleagues who (I think) like me, but we're not really close, and we don't meet nor call each other anymore. I've no family, or at least no one I've talked to for at least a decade (no questions on this topic please, that's too private). I agree that having a family or close friends should act as a deterrent, but everything has its limits. Going on and on for many years or even decades not because you want to live, but just so that you wouldn't hurt family & friends is a martyrdom that no one should be obliged to go through. And I doubt that your energy/aura would do them much good over these years and decades anyway. The only case I'd exempt from this deliberation are your kids, because it was you who brought them into this world and they depend on you. Generally, I would encourage a parent to fight for their children, it is something worth to fight for. Though on another hand, there're parents who mistreat or ignore their children to an extent that I wonder if even a death of parents would cause less damage (if the children get into a good new family). There may be people who like to fight for the sake of fighting, for the sake of not giving up. But I'm not one of them, and never will be, no matter how much you try to insult me by calling "a pussy" or whatever. And telling someone to start enjoying their life is just a silly as telling them to fall in love with someone particular or even in general. You can't force people to love. So, why am I here on this site at all? Well, I'm just not ready to end it all. At least not yet. And no matter how small, there's a chance that I find a reason to say that my life was not for naught (as of now, I wouldn't mind to travel in the past and make it so that I was just never born). Rude comments like the ones above will definitely not help me with this, though I won't blame them for giving up either. I think, it's pretty obvious that I'm looking for a significant one, for a kindred soul... And a pro-choice stance on the topic of this thread is pretty important for me (you don't really need to post in this thread though, it's enough that I get the arrows from the "I'll beat you into enjoying your life" clique in my back...)
jineko
fatzilla @jineko commented on Suicide
Oct 10, 13 at 7:32pm
My opinion is similar on this matter, though I have attempted it many times. Specially with the thoughts of I have no more future on this earth and I feel like I've achieved my dreams and I can't see what's ahead of me.. So I kinda feel you. What differs with me is that I'm just afraid to hurt myself stabbing myself with a sword is a cool way to die but I figured it would hurt like hell. Also, well, I don't wanna go to hell(cause I'm a catholic and believe those things and all). Plus, there are still a lot of things that you can experience. You can't do that when you're dead XD I can't even figure out what would happen to me when I die.
tornadomushroom
If you're having those types of issues, maybe it's better for you to honestly just go get some help. Therapy if you will. If you're not willing to get help, why the hell are you even posting here? No one is telling you to Enjoy life. We are telling you to work on the fundamentals so that you can set yourself up for it. No one likes fighting and no one likes not giving up, the reason why people do it is because they know that it's the only way to move on. You may be years ahead of me in age and experience, but I can surely tell you that from what You've explained soo far... ? it sounds like you just want everything handed to you on a platter. None of our comments are rude, it is the way we see "SUICIDE" from the outside. I'm not one to tell you how to live, or anyone how to live but if all you're just gonna do is bitch and moan about how you don't want to work to improve your life, then don't post here at all. @Jineko, the whole point of setting goals is to reach them so you can set new goals. The fact that this many people or this many fellow Otakus are this suicidal blows my mind. You keep thinking the way you do and you'll never be happy. But in conclusion, if you think you're not worth living, why the hell are you still alive? Scared to do it? A coward for wanting to commit suicide and too much of a coward to do it. Do you see the pattern here? And then there are the FAKE suicidal people who just like to put on a show because they love the attention. You guys all make me sick lol, I'm not calling anyone here a fake but I'm not going to feel sorry for anyone for feeling suicidal in this thread because they're not willing to work on themselves. THIS. IS. SAD. Call me a douchebag or an ignorant prick but the fact that I'm willing to even type this much shows that I care but at the same time, disappointed in all of you lol.
exherokid
Oct 10, 13 at 9:09pm
Serious talk is very serious. Anti-depressants helped me out a lot. But the happy pill route is not one everyone is willing to take. Also don't use Zoloft.
animeboy
Oct 10, 13 at 9:17pm
Maaaayyyybbbbbbeeeeee this topic is a little tad extreme for ppl here. I see alot of headbutting around here and I'm going to assume it's not going to end anytime soon either.
exherokid
Oct 10, 13 at 9:21pm
Of course not... Especially seeing as how alot of Otakus are generally considered social outcasts and a lot of them have had pretty crappy lives which is why a lot choose to live in the fantasy world, I'm sure a lot of us have come across this problem somewhere down the line. And it doesn't help that there are a lot of depressing shit out there sometimes *cough* Zetsubou SenseiNot that they're the cause of our distress of course.
tornadomushroom
I don't see how Otakus are generally considered as Social outcasts though. Almost all Otakus i know IRL are the opposite of "Social Outcasts" o_O. A lot of people in general are considered as "Social Outcasts" anyway but to say that they are Otakus would be quite unfair o_O. Let alone, I think most Otakus prefer to live in the Fantasy world because they just like Anime and the Fantasy itself o_O, hence... Otaku. Now what you're talking about are Hikikomoris... The reason why I am retaliating at all is because this negativity shit about suicide isn't needed here. Telling people it's okay to Suicide and to not work on improving their life is unforgivable.
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