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Lamby @momoichi
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Lamby @momoichi
they dont, your infuring that they imply it
which is the better source
my sources "they do not feel pain"
your sources "they react to stimuli in interesting ways"
c'mon

Pirate-san @kyros96
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Pirate-san @kyros96
honestly, the whole debate about plants feeling pain or not is so dumb, it's like asking - does this car has this type of sensor or not?
like man when u kill it, you kill it. its dead.
do not try to make yourself feel better that u stepped over a plant and not on a rat (or any other animal).
what dies - dies.
why do you think plants made spice or grew thorns?
to protect themselves from being eaten.- or poison ?

SnakeePoo @solid_snake95
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SnakeePoo @solid_snake95
Memes are gateways to the lands of UwU

Lamby @momoichi
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Lamby @momoichi
i could extend this into veganism even if i conceded that they did feel pain because theres no way its as much as animals feel
there for the "but plants tho" is a non argument as it still doesnt excuse the pain and suffering animals go through unless they wanna say its equivalent or anywhere near there
i do not extend moral consideration to something that isnt sentient enough to have a subjective experience, so veganism STILL stands
but i refuse to give even an inch in this debate that they might feel anything close to pain because plants do not feel as humans do
they have no brains
they have no subjective experiences

Caleb of the cancer @caleb_williams
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Caleb of the cancer @caleb_williams
well how can you prove that then

Caleb of the cancer @caleb_williams
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Caleb of the cancer @caleb_williams
how can you prove that they have no subjective expriences

Lamby @momoichi
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Lamby @momoichi
i keep saying it
plants do not have a brain
they do not have a complex nervous system
have you even been reading what iv been saying? did you read ANYTHING iv posted?
iv read all of your sources, id expect the same courtesy extended to me
please actually read this
"Humans and animals perceive pain through sensory nerve cells. These are the same type of cells that transmit information from our senses, allowing us to smell, see, hear, taste, and touch. These cells are part of what’s called the peripheral nervous system, which includes all the body's nerves except those in the spinal cord and brain.
Peripheral nerve cells form a network that carries messages from the skin, muscles, and organs to the spinal cord and brain. The brain responds by sending back messages to the pain site that promote the healing process."
plants lack all of that
@caleb prove plants have sentients
actually read this please as to why they are not sentient
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28875517

Pirate-san @kyros96
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Pirate-san @kyros96
Me:
https://media1.tenor.com/images/ecf0a09ca9be851b6bdd541659fe58aa/tenor.gif
Lamby:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/700044083502252102/704273567130583121/unknown.gif

Caleb of the cancer @caleb_williams
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Caleb of the cancer @caleb_williams
https://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/5678/20140117/study-shows-plants-learn-remember.htm

Lamby @momoichi
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Lamby @momoichi
wer all equal in death ye but for me atleast morality stems from empathy
the golden rule, do onto others as you want done onto you
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