Religious rants

@veru Lol took the quote right outta my mouf “How do atheists who dont believe im god explain the various tribes that perform human sacrifices?" Easy, they did it in the name of their God. Ancient civilizations that did human sacrifices were not godless. They believed in God. Just not your God. From human sacrifices, to medieval Christian inquisitions, to Muslims blowing up buildings, I can go on and on. The belief to appease God at no matter what the cost often leads humans to doing some crazy shit. Aztecs, Egyptians, Muslims, Christians etc all do and did wild shit for their God. Was that supposed to be a gotcha question? Yeah, more like a self-own gotcha question. You just self-owned yourself and you didn't even realize it. Yes, yes, I know, your little cookie cutter bot response. "If they believed in muh God, they wouldn't be doing human sacrifices". Let me ask you this. What if half the verses in the bible were about human sacrifice? What if the only way to appease your Christian God was through human sacrifice? If that were true, then many Christians would be advocating for human sacrifices in a heartbeat. If God from heaven came down tomorrow and killed all the atheist and God stated: "Alright motherfuckers, I am God and I can to do whatever the fuck I want. In order to get into the kingdom of heaven. I require a human sacrifice from every single one of you. You have 24hrs to choose. Lest you burn in hell for all eternity." There are two responses: Alpha response: The true Chad believers of God do exactly what God wants. Give God the human sacrifice he requires. Blessed be those who follow god’s plan. Doing sacrifices just like Aztecs. Haha! Whoops! Beta cucked response: Oh durr hurr, I refuse to engage with the hypothetical and instead refute it by simply stating that muh God doesn't need human sacrifices. You’re not a true follower of God then. If God ask you to do something. No matter how ridiculous it is. You do it. Otherwise, you'll be in defiance of gods orders. You know what happens when you defy God? Your ass goes to hell. What are you? An alpha Chad follower that does whatever god tells you or a beta cuck believer that does not follow gods’ orders?

This is adding onto Aleph's point here. The common issues with religions is they teach their deity is 'The' deity. That they are the chosen people the ones who fill a prophecy. This is mostly a political approach. Especially with Christians and Muslims due to leading expanding empires. Having people convert to your religion gives people a sense of nationalism. So it can be a useful tool in that sense. It's hard to separate the genuine spiritual from the politics of a bygone era in your chosen faith. If we're also going to bring up human sacrifice. We should address the elephant in the room. Jesus is a human sacrifice. Not in the sense the Aztecs did it but he is a metaphor for it. He suffered, died for our sins. Then people take communion "his flesh and blood" into their bodies. It's a clear metaphor for sacrifice and cannibalism. Of course it's a spiritual nourishment not a physical one. Also the symbol of Christianity for the vast majority of Christians is the cross which was a horrific killing device for the Romans. You get strung up there for days until a point where it hurts to breath. It's a rather morbid religious symbol when you think about it. Of course I know it's supposed to represent the cleansing of Sin but what cleansed you? Jesus's blood. Now Jesus did come back to life though and some religious groups use the image of Jesus and his resurrection as their symbol more so than the cross. I'm just saying if you're going to weaponize human sacrifice as a tool of barbarians then you need to remember you worship a human sacrifice.

You guys misunderstand, the human sacrifices occured in DIFFERENT TRIBES ACORSS DIFFERENT CONTINENTS. How did this group decide im gonna sacrifice a human and this tribe say im gonna sacrifice a human and tribes that sacrifice to different gods. Where did it come from? How did they learn about this? How can things found in different tribes and cultures be the same. You can say they moved and introduced them. But then how tf do they travel across the ocean to then go back to primitive living? Like you dont just wake up and say if i dont sacrifice the god is gonna kill everyone down here. There has to be a reason this happened. Something that happened to make them sacred of an invisible being.

Its in my opinion that these tribes came across something. Like people who pray to a golden bull or a multiarmed being. Even if you dont believe in a God or religion. Where does this come from? Like how does a whole religion form around a certain object or idol and then people all gather and for generations say this thing that has done nothing for us...yeah lets keep worshipping.

Both, human sacrifice i believe comes from the dark trinity. Or people praying to things they shouldnt. But religion itself how do people create an entire religion based off nothing? Its really easy for religion to have long died out if there wasnt a benefit to it, or any reason to believe. Why would anybody fight so hard for things that are unpopular and doesnt affect them in anyway. Listen maybe i am biased as a christian. But bad faith actors aside, scammers and christians in name only aside. I legitimately feel God exists. Now i have had proof God exists. Many people also feel that way. Maybe those who cannot see it or the ones they ignore it typically become anti-religion. I get it, some people disagree with certain aspects of religion. You know im reading the bible and i ask myself. Why do these guys have multiple wives, why are these guys able to perform acts God has granted to specific people. There are questions and i can see it from an outside perspective. But i also know what i know so idk

Okay, that's a bit to unpack. First off the dark trinity is in the frame of Christianity. So if you want to talk about different religions especially early ones you have to get out of that mindset. Some of the earliest religion comes from our cro magnon ancestors carving wooden figures that were a mix of human and animal traits. There was also early tattooing of animal designs and cave art with hands printed on animals. These were seen as magical to have the traits of those animals. Then there was also spiritual connection to areas like rivers or mountains. Usually places that held value for them. There was also burial rights. That all is under the umbrella of animism. Then later you have more complex religions but that's a really big subject XD. Now I will say this, Panda. You are biased here. To you, Christianity is the only religion. You see other religions and those to you are just idols. You're never going to understand the mindset of others if you think like that. Assuming you want to understand their mindset. If you only want to understand their mindset to convert them it'll never happen. From their perspective they could see your religion as false and that it has no affect on your life. Now why do people do things you consider bad? I figure that's what you're asking with the last few lines. That's a tale as old as time. Humans are savages and we do horrible things. Just like Cain killing his brother Able, violence among people has never ceased. We can do good things too though.

Just a reminder, more often than not, blood sacrifice uses the blood of the caster, not an unwilling victim. Only a complete psychopath or a desperate normie with no understanding how magick actually works would stoop to life sacrifice. We've modernized. Now personally I don't endorse self harm, even where magick is concerned. And one thing we do observe is that regular practice of blood sacrifice will attract demons. I don't pretend to know divinity, but we have our own word in occult belief for the being you describe there, Aleph. Demiurge. Divinity doesn't use dogma. An authoritarian intelligence that thinks it is god and has a narcisistic need to grab an underwhelming looser and prop them up as a hero however just to show off its power? Don't get me wrong, I'll say it again. I don't understand divinity fully. But I do understand where dogma comes from. A need to control.

Hmmmmm i might stop here, rabbit hole i dont wanna go down lol i am open minded to other religions and i think in a way they are all connected. Buuuut you know they arent Christianity.

@hell_hound7 Haha, don't worry about it. I don't do religion, personally. But I respect one's need to keep faith. That isn't the same as "Dogma."