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Nice guy syndrome and white knights

yamadaed
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momoichi
i dont think any women can take advantage of "nice guys" when theyr so toxic and anti-women theyr one step away from going full mgtow and white knighting is a bit of a tough subject two people are in agreement on a topic and one of these people gets in an argument and the other steps in to defend the original person lets say these people both have penises is the one stepping in a white knight? no lets say one of these people has a vagina is the one stepping in a white knight? depends does the person have a penis? yes? then yes lets say these two people are gay, so possible sexual attraction is there is the one stepping in suddenly a white knight? white knighting is just a sexist term to demean men and women alike
yaasshat
I kind of count them as one and the same. Yes, both sexes can be guilty of either and really, no one likes them. You're nice, yes, but your motives are not. A white knight comes in to save when no saving is needed and then said white knight plays "nice guy/girl" through emotional manipulation. Where as a nice guy/girl is typically nice only to obtain something and if they don't get what they want, their an entitled ass hole. The similarity lies in emotional manipulation under false pretenses and it's really not so much a sexist thing so much as a trope that fits manipulative people in general.
crossbones
Nice guys and white knights are hilarious and pathetic. Women trying to use their charms are hilarious and pathetic.
cupcakerin
yaasshat explained it perfectly imo. There's also when you just side with a girl in any context and any reason and you get called a white knight T_T
yamadaed
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cupcakerin
Damn right I have! And yaasshat has not responded to my holy kindness with sexual gratification, I was being so nice, by no right should I be ignored like this! I'm going to start with the slut-shaming NOW (jk I'm just being sarcastic pls don't take this seriously) But ya it's just when you try to take part in a debate and people completely dismisses your entire point and assume you are just being thirsty and nothing else and nothing you say will make them change their mind...
whispywoods
I'm a nice guy :3
reinhardt76
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kamina_
Being nice is good and all, but I find women really want someone whose claim to fame is more than just being nice. Your hobbies, your talents, what you bring to the table etc. The good ones don't want a fucking doormat of a boyfriend. They want someone who can support them, back them up, and provide a stable situation.
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