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yo, everyone seems to love the one piece remake, you were right! did you like it too??
godspell @godspell I haven't watched it. Disenchantment just ended today. So I'm rewatching the series
godspell @godspell I'm also not surprise. The effort made was evident even the snails were robots. The dialogue didn't betray the characters
godspell @godspell I do feel sad for the people who only say it's ok. Meaning they don't understand the first arc is the toughest to read or watch
godspell @godspell So I have to make sure to keep updating you on new things. One Steven universe funko pop nfts. People be made it's been 8 year or so and it's nfts lol. But it's star sapphire and ruby wedding like yay. Also blue diamond the grail
godspell @godspell Also the fionna and cake TV show is out on HBO max. Looks like it's multiverse related bc it has nothing to do with ice king fan fiction. It's a regular human and cat who end up meeting Simon who is traversing the multiverse
godspell @godspell So nvm. It is the continuation of adventure time. That's pretty exciting
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nein, das
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godspell @godspell I don't think the riddler the best villain. But he's easily in the top 5 or 3 for me
Lamby @momoichi watch the viiiiiddddddd
godspell @godspell I've seen the video. You know I listen to a lot of batman related videos for car rides or cartoon retrospective
godspell @godspell He makes it seem like there's no thoughts for any other villains
Lamby @momoichi hes referring to the comic ya dingus. its soooooo fucking clever!
godspell @godspell Yeahhhh. I still think scarecrow or two face are my top 2 sadly. Riddler sometimes in first place sometimes depending if I've been reading riddler comics only for a few months
Lamby @momoichi i thought you were obsesssed with clayface? did you finish the vid?
godspell @godspell I've listen to it before in my car when I was looking for riddler videos. Clayface is in my top 10. The issue with clayface is the writers forget how to write him as a thief or a troubled monster
godspell @godspell They usually forget the actor and a thief were two separate clayface. Or fuse the backstories together
godspell @godspell Bro this zombie Korean game show is so much fun to watch hahaha
Lamby @momoichi did you finish the vid? oh yeah? oh shit i never watched train to bosan, gotta watch it this year
godspell @godspell You told me you did. You gotta watch we're all dead the Korean zombie show. So in this game show. I'm on the last ep so this guy pushed this girl on crutches into the zombies got bit. But they kept her bc she's invisible to zombies. But she's gonna turn so when the players stay in the ferris wheel waiting for the boat to arrive. She had full control of the device. So she's now locked in with him to bite him when she turns
godspell @godspell Ok this is bs. The other survivors chose not to change the machine to save him. They let her have him lol like fuck bro he was my favorite he kept laughing out of nerves too.
godspell @godspell Ok nevermind I'm fine with his ending. He ends off as zombie king dancing the night away with a piano that you blow into.
Lamby @momoichi k but like you watch that vid yet
godspell @godspell I have watched the video
godspell @godspell The issue with the riddler is that they destroy the riddler reputation. He had a huge boom after the 66 batman show. However a writer decided after he had a long successful time. That he made the whole thing up in his mind and that he's a d rank villain. So writers have the tendency to write him as a loser. And now people thought he was a loser until Paul dano had the role.
godspell @godspell Also it keeps people from writing fun stories of the riddler in this format since they know the popularity of story wouldn't be there. Unlike the joker. Which is why joker in my top 5 instead of top 3
Lamby @momoichi i forget these days why the joker is so kool.
godspell @godspell There is a lot of comics that are seriously really good about the joker. But the oversaturation is very tiring
Lamby @momoichi what is his thing ment to be? just absurdism? arthurs jaded violence was the best interpretation. i think joker is peak when hes the 'im tired of crying, so ill start lauging' i hope thatll be the joker in the batman
godspell @godspell Idk their have been comics that explore the times where he hasn't laughed in weeks. There are a ton of joker comics though that are brilliant. I'm just too tired to think about it
Lamby @momoichi i forget, did you end up reading tokyo ghoul? furuta is the best archetype for the joker. taking control of the uncontrollable and forcing a smile and making everything a punchline because if you dared take anything serious, youd lose that control over it. humor is one of the best (unhealthy) coping mechanisms because it takes control away from something, you now paint it with your own brush, a humorous one. again, unhealthy but i think that would be peak joker, and i think thats the joker we got from arthur to some extent
godspell @godspell I did but I need to reread it. But the joker represents the darkness of humanity from one bad day. And that is what he does in gotham whenever he gets out.
godspell @godspell I feel like I should recommend 3 comics from each villain to you.
Lamby @momoichi i mean, all of the gotham villains are the darkest. idk what makes joker especially evil
Lamby @momoichi eeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhh not really a comic reader.
godspell @godspell Well they aren't. Two face wants to prove good and evil are part of the same coin from his belief in duality. Riddler wants to prove he's the smartest. Mr freeze will do anything to save his wife. Penguin wants to have daring capers and make off with cash. The joker does it because he can and will
Lamby @momoichi nah riddler wants friends. mr freeze is special he isnt a villain. but they all do equal amounts of evil. you could say joker does it because he wants to stick his middle finger in the air and its just as much a motive as riddler, no true chaos. even chaos for chaos sake is still a motive
godspell @godspell I would like to think riddler is just as bad as joker. He has no tragic backstory. He has nothing. When he admitted his orgin story to a doctor they were flabbergasted. There was nothing really in his backstory that would inspire him to do what he does
godspell @godspell Btw when we hanging out so I can just annoy you for hrs
Lamby @momoichi you like joker without a sad backstory? i would have agreed, but man edward nashton and arthur are such good characters. no notes no complaints. perfect villains
Lamby @momoichi id break a joint on your hand every time you bothered me
godspell @godspell I know you would. But I would still knock on your door to show you a panel of a Manga
Lamby @momoichi depends the manga...
godspell @godspell Wellll knowing me it'll be stuff you havent read
Lamby @momoichi sure, but would it be any good? showing me a bad manga makes i break your elbow
godspell @godspell You can try. I'm currently reading marriagetoxin. An assassin specialize with poisons has to find a women to marry to continue the clan or their grandma will force his sister to break up with her gf and have kids. He saves a con artist of relationship to help him find a wife
Lamby @momoichi sounds like if spy x family and hells paradise had a child
godspell @godspell Yeah I have my doubts whether of he'll fall for the con artist for some reasons I don't want to spoil. But he's a really nice person who only kills criminals for his jobs. He even injects himself with his poisons to stimulate his strength
godspell @godspell Have you seen the clips for dead mount death play. I'm so happy to see it be receive so well
Lamby @momoichi is that the surgeon guy? someone recommended me that (might have been you?) when i said i loved scum of good and evil
godspell @godspell Hmm I don't think so. Diner Manga might be more your speed though. A diner that serves serial killers or killers for hires
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have you played arkham and if yes why (in your own words) were the riddler parts the best?
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godspell @godspell Because the voice actor and dialogue were perfect for him. The obsessive compulsion to be more intelligent than anyone was his driving force into fighting batman. His riddles really drove home how annoying he is in the comics or anywhere for the never ending riddles
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theres a few photoshops of the danoman looking like the og riddler. i think this what fandom thought theyd dress him as initially. oh how wrong they were
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godspell @godspell I think he's fine the way he was in the movie. But now everyone knows who he is. He has no reason to hide anymore
godspell @godspell I'm getting comic books to sell tomorrow. The packages says 20 pounds so I'm very nervous. I hope everything was perfect like I hope
Lamby @momoichi he was perfection. i mean, if he doesnt wanna get recaptured yeah he has to hide >W> more so than before. but hey, thats what he always wanted. to be seen. im happy for him. i hope he gets to fuck over the newest da
godspell @godspell I don't think he will. He did kill the new DA so that explains why we get Harvey dent. Plus he's hanging with the joker. Teaching him to be flashy
Lamby @momoichi well remember, the joker isnt the joker yet. but he will be soon. i think riddler would just make joker his new friend (friendship with batman ended) and follow him around like a puppy for the most part. i wonder how their friendship will end? in another betrayal? god i hope so
godspell @godspell Easily a betrayal. He'll probably convince him the people they'll be killing are evil rotting the soul in gotham. Vs joker actually polluting gotham with more madness
godspell @godspell Oh yeah in other news I really wanna finally finish bojack Horseman. And be depressed for the rest of the year
Lamby @momoichi to be honest i dont think riddler cares about 'killing evil people' keep in mind he flooded downtown gotham, he knew average joes would die and he didnt care. he hates all of gotham, the people included
Lamby @momoichi oh yeah? whatcha think? better yet, how ya feelin?
godspell @godspell I really wanna rewatch it. So I might start tomorrow. We'll see. I know I want to rank all the episodes. I know the first 3 ep are easily in my bottom tier
Lamby @momoichi riiiiiiiiiiight!?!?! iv rewatched it like, 7, 8 times. just cozy and also the sadness but like, controlled sadness because you know itll happen
godspell @godspell I don't know it hurts a lot to be honest. Like when bojack sabatoges Todd dream for a rock opera. It's a better version of rick sabatoging morty Netflix dream
Lamby @momoichi my fave ep was the alzheimers one. seeing his mom throughout her history, how she wasnt always like this, hearing 'i will always, think of you,' knowing shes losing her memory. the lobotomy and the 'why, if i had half a mind,' seeing her and his father give these little dreams of 'ill be a famous writer, and we'll be happy' only to know it so wasnt true. all of the ifs. fuck, one of the best episodes of tv history
godspell @godspell I definitely don't even remember that I just remember her for what she did to hollyhock. But did you know they have a complete script for bojack if Netflix ask them to do another season
Lamby @momoichi DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD:
Lamby @momoichi oh yeah i knew it was canceled earlier than they wanted, but they sticked the landing
godspell @godspell They really did. But they can easily be back
Lamby @momoichi i mean, what else can they do? id rather the writers work on new stuff, like tuca bertie
godspell @godspell Idk it's the same thing I can about Futurama. Im so happy they're back. Fry Billy west is legit 71 be can any day now
Lamby @momoichi wwhhaaaattttttttt your hyped for the new futurama? why? didnt they lose benders voice actor? and what did you think of the last season (minus the final episode)?
godspell @godspell I think the 10th season had a whole array from d tiers to S tier episodes
Lamby @momoichi really? what episodes to you were s tier? personally the only one i remember being s tier was the final one
godspell @godspell Game of tones. Stench of stenchibility. I think those are super close. Maybe A tier.
Lamby @momoichi i do nooot remember thes eps xD quick synopsis's?
godspell @godspell Game of tones. Is where this sonic message is hitting the world and the tone jogs something in fry memory. That he knows this tune. So they professor makes fry enter his memories to find the source. He ignores it bc he wants to have final words with his mom. But his friends and Nibbler force him to find it. Keeping him away
Lamby @momoichi whoa that sounds so good wtf maybe i need to revisit the final season
godspell @godspell Long story short again. Finds the source and Nibbler pays him this debt. By letting him in a dream. But it's his mom dream. His mom thinks it's a dream bc she's dreamt of fry since he disappear. And instead of a speech. Fry hugs her. It makes me cry so much
Lamby @momoichi futurama is so fucking good, rick and morty can eat ass, futurama is the REAL cartoon for nerds. they had real harvard physicists on their writing staff for fuck sake. real smart/nerdy jokes, not just making fun of scifi and acting like your doing it smartly.
Lamby @momoichi the deal with the devil episode was the best. the ending where fry relearns the holophone was, ugh. feelings. nothing more than feelings
godspell @godspell That's easily S tier. But sting is easily the best Futurama episode. Stench one about zoidberg finally getting a happy ending before the last episode. He finds a girlfriend who can't smell his terrible stench. But she always wanted to smell flowers. So in a selfless act he gives her the nose transplant to smell. Instead of leaving him. She loves his smell and hates flowers. In my opinion this is a fantastic episode summing all the parts of zoidberg everyone forgets. He is the nicest member
Lamby @momoichi wwhhhaaattt the og eps arent your fave? i think the eps pre the first cancelation were futurama at its peak
godspell @godspell I think sting was easily the best. Where a bee stings Leela through fry. Killing fry in the process. But in the end turns out Leela was in a Coma the entire episode until the end
Lamby @momoichi oohh that one! i hear people really like that, but it was frustrating for me. i know the reveal at the end and how sweet fry was waitinhg was great, but the ep was an odyssey. emotionally taxing, you know?
godspell @godspell I think it's quite something they could animate it like a fever dream. The more you rewatch the episode the more you see the signs it was a Coma. All the dream fry presents are in the hospital room with Leela meaning fry would bring her gifts. It illustrates the love fry has for Leela and her to him.
Lamby @momoichi fever dream really is the best way to describe it.
godspell @godspell I think it was one of the only times they could animate the series like that. And im glad it paid off
godspell @godspell Fuck the creator of I'm Sakamoto passed away from cancer.
godspell @godspell Hey there
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read anymore chapters yet!?
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godspell @godspell No I've been exhausted from work and my knee was killing me
godspell @godspell I swear I'll read tonight
Lamby @momoichi D:<
godspell @godspell Yeah I gotta schedule a chiropractor tomorrow. My knee hasn't gotten better
Lamby @momoichi you gotta rest it to let it get better. use ice?
godspell @godspell I have. I'm going to a chiropractor still hurts. It clicks when I move so it has to be an imbalance muscle or runner knee
godspell @godspell I've finished two more chapters. Makes sense why he targeted the commissioner probably hid the evidence
Lamby @momoichi i.... i really recommend you do not go to a chiropractor, its a pseudoscience that works purely on placibo. i'm sure you already have the appointment booked and nothing i can say will change it, but i cant in good conscious say nothing
Lamby @momoichi BASED do you think his really name is edward nashton? you know how in the main canon his name is nygma? his name could still be nygma cause the letter it was just e.n!
godspell @godspell Idk my mom kept urging me to go. Id rather have my knee adjusted at least. To put it properl. His name he probably changes it to Edward nigma when he finds his parents
godspell @godspell Or wants to cut ties
Lamby @momoichi i dont think itll change because the website he uses is nygma, so i think thats the official connection, but his last name simply being n (or is that his mothers signature? we nary know.) so what do you think so far?
godspell @godspell I think they flipped a dictionary for his last time. Nashton probably his real name. He probably uses enigma as an alias last time. Bc enigma can be used for riddler purposes
Lamby @momoichi i dont think nashton could be his first name, just like a probability issue, cause how many n last names are there? chance nashton was THE one is near impossible. so what do you think about it so far??
Lamby @momoichi and he never used enigma as an alias, nor will he probz. hes riddler and i think the website being nygma was just an homage
godspell @godspell 13 15 8. That's a riddler from batman forever. MRE. Double meaning for enigma like Edward nigma
Lamby @momoichi wait. wait wait wait wait wait. back it up. explain?
godspell @godspell Edward nygma using that riddle on batman when he first appeared with two face in the forever to taunt batman who he is. Since they met only once.
godspell @godspell 13 15 8 those correspond to the alphabet but the riddler always cheats bc the riddles have double meanings. MRE could mean enigma
godspell @godspell Idk I feel like could be an alias like joker uses John doe
godspell @godspell Also I watched good omens season 2. Ugh my heart
Lamby @momoichi pretty basic form of cipher. with your riddler incite, any idea what he was spelling with those blocks? surely they werent just jibberish and ment something? some easter egg?
Lamby @momoichi never seen good omens but the fanart is cute
godspell @godspell I'd have to look at it more. But he really does make everything as one big riddle or puzzle. I feel like coding like making a riddler
godspell @godspell Riddle
godspell @godspell Also yes good omens is such fun. I can't believe season 2 came back after 5 years
Lamby @momoichi yeah, coding is largely black and white works or doesnt work and the problems are right there, a lot like math. theres right and wrong, black and white. which seems the opposite of riddles in my opinion because riddles probz have more than one answer if your clever enough, so not as black and white, but still that puzzle aspect
Lamby @momoichi so what do you think of the comic so far????
godspell @godspell Well coding the same way. Just because you have it set up the computer could take it both ways. Like for example my brother was updating new anti virus software and the old software was trying to kill the new one. It's fine. I don't think it'll be in my top 10 but it's something to recommend to people who really like the batman and Paul dano
Lamby @momoichi whaaaaaaaaaaat why not?! is edward nashton not 'literaly meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee rn!!"!?!??!
godspell @godspell I don't know. I really like him as riddler but the comic for me is still not as good as my favorite riddler stories
Lamby @momoichi hes not relatable D:? at all D:?
godspell @godspell It's like I'm really hoping this interpretation of penguin is really good. I have my favorite comics of penguin and I want this guy to be close to those comics. Idk I feel like I do relate. I do put up with the loneliness of my life not being able to accept myself and seeking affirmation or meeting people expectations of me
Lamby @momoichi hes been great so far. a total sleazed ball and clearly still disabled because hes called a gimp by falcone and it really pissed him off. i only care about his show because i wanna see that old money from not a wayne lens, but a cobblepot lens. how is his family so different from the waynes. what ties do they have as very old gotham families? stuff like that. same. hes like my soul comic book partner. i want him to explain things needlessly to me, and i can ask him questions on how things work and hed just instantly rattle off the answer. thats domestic bliss
godspell @godspell I love penguin. It's fine they do the henchman to crime boss. But I like the gentlemen thief he used to be before using more sophisticated methods like using the ice lounge as a front where everything that happens can't be traced back to him. Like I love when robin says why care about this c lister. But batman even says he's smarter than me don't underestimate him. Then why do you win. Bc he has weaknesses in his personality that allows batman to win
Lamby @momoichi he use to be a gentlemen thief? how did that work? kek a bar is probz a good front yeah, all that cash. penguin is a c lister? hes one of the wealthiest and oldest families.
godspell @godspell They rank him as that according from the Robins due to him being ridiculous. But no one understands that the penguin will strike you down for considering him ridiculous. He went on a daring caper for 3 heists to prove these criminals in a bar he's still top dog not joker
Lamby @momoichi oh i thought you ment his socialite statues. i like penguin because hes like, this slimey lil sleaze ball whos largely a slave to his vices. hes gross and classless, but conversely from old money and looks/dresses classily. i like contrasting stuff, clearly. green wouldnt be so green without red, you know?
godspell @godspell I think my favorite penguin story where penguin wins. He decides to stop doing crime and do crime the legal way. Even batman can't stop him from influencing the stock market to make himself rich. The penguin a genius. You also see how he dreams of himself. As a gentleman thief. But batman waits long enough that penguin gets bored. And strikes out to fight batman again in Wayne manor bc he wanted to buy it
godspell @godspell It also shows his childhood how he manipulates people with money and blackmails them. A character that appears in the story is his ex prom date he bought with money. But blackmails her to kiss him and pretend to be in love or he'll tell everyone he bought her. She is the same sadly and let's herself to be bought bc she wants to kill him
Lamby @momoichi stocks? arent a crime xD? insider trading might be? i mean, lawless crimes might be shit like card counting or engaging in predatory sweepstakes. predatory money lending is another one.
godspell @godspell He was using a device that would change the market bc he knows exactly the market operates enough where no one would notice. He got someone who bullied him to sponsor him in the stock market.
godspell @godspell This one and this short where penguin in love with a slave girl and buys her freedom is my favorite. Where she thanks him and doesn't want to leave him regardless of his deformity. But she finds out the darkness in him. He destroyed the life of a chef bc he thought he was laughing at him
Lamby @momoichi like a stock predicting machine? or actually changing the market? in what way? sounds illegal as well. like insider trading in the most literal way xD
Lamby @momoichi lol wtf. he buys a slave girl and she doesnt wanna leave him cause shes oh so super duper grateful? creepy
godspell @godspell Yes they talked a lot and end up falling in love. It's when he was a legit person running a casino. Batman would weekly check in on him beating up his guards to tell him to stay on the path. But the darkness in Oswald couldn't be contain. He has a scrap book of how he destroyed people lives who spite or bully him. He had the chef restaurant close to a vermin problem. He ends up losing his wife to divorce and kids from a custody battle. And he has a liquor store built in front of his apartment since he knows he was addicted to liquor. Then he kills himself. Girl finds out calling him a monster and he gives her back to the black market
Lamby @momoichi cringe. the 'he saved me so i owe him my love' trope and the virtuous prostitute trope. outdated. ill bet she was gorgeous of course. and never mind penguin routinely traffics women as apart of his business. nah im sure hes a heckin swell guy when you talk to him.
godspell @godspell It isn't his business. He went to a black market bc he wanted to see if there was anythinG penguin related and she look like him when he was at his lowest at school. The penguin has always been at his weakest when he falls for someone. In the 60s he gave up crime for a pen pal he had in prison. This is sorta like that. But done well to illustrate what would happen if he was given love he never had. Like on valentines day he was beaten up by girls and then unless pigeons he was rasing
godspell @godspell Unleash
godspell @godspell She only saw the good in him. She thought he was an honest business man as he's shown himself to gotham. She didn't know who he was or what he was. It was an amazing story. Bc all the penguin wants is his love. And he'll never have it bc he is a monster
godspell @godspell Oh yeah this is also when riddler was a good btw. He was hanging out with penguin talking about how easy it is to be rich doing legit business. He was a private eye detective solving cases. He even worked with batman and the dialogue amazing. Bc he is a better detective than batman in some cases
Lamby @momoichi to be fair, i dont care much about the riddler as a character outside this specific iteration. all of batmans villains are amazing, though riddler is too over the top for my liking in most of his iterations. after nashton i love the riddler from the arkham games. that haughty asshole that taunts and forces you to play with him.
godspell @godspell I think there are mostly good iterations of him. Like there's a good chunk of comics for him. But I can never forgive when the writer in charge makes him look like a damn loser. He isn't a loser with a lame gimmick!
Lamby @momoichi i dont like the suave suit verison of him. i want condescending nerd. i want condescending nerd but now greasy and in a white beater.
godspell @godspell Idk he's always condescending. He always believes he's more intelligent than anyone. It's always cool to see him. His riddles are amazing but annoying but if it leaves everyone baffled and he successfully does his plan it's great
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yo you read it yet
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godspell @godspell I read two chapters before a thunderstorm interrupted me
Lamby @momoichi WHATDYATHINK
godspell @godspell It's really good for what it's trying to achieve. I do believe this would have made the movie more difficult if they added this to the movie run time
Lamby @momoichi lol yeah this could never be in the movie, the movie was ultimately about batman. but paul dano wanted to better flesh out the edward nashton behind the riddler. how do you think he portrayed mental illness? dano seems like a normie but it got intrusive thoughts eerily accurate
godspell @godspell Nah dano character had all the mental illnesses that the riddler possess but he was slowly becoming him gradually. This comic just confirmed what I suspectef
Lamby @momoichi no i mean paul dano himself looks like a normie. like a normal guy, no extreme anxieties or issues. yet he captures edwards mental health issues pretty well i think. obvious edward is fucked in the head lol
godspell @godspell Yeah I'm very happy with him having his ocd and his attention seeking validation problems. He wants affirmation that he is better than anyone. The way he uses his puzzles and riddles to calm down is an unhealthy compulsion issue. He can not live without them to continue
Lamby @momoichi i dont think he has ocd, just looping thoughts and obsessive tendencies. hes not really attention seeking either, i think hes more like a normal shy person. he wants friends, but friends are hard to make, and especially so when everyone is a dick to you. and when you do try (with the woman on the train) you only ever get punished. i think this is where the matt reeves riddler thrives, hes so down to earth and understandable. relatable in this way.
godspell @godspell But that's what ocd is. Obsession and compulsions that he does over an over again. With his riddles and puzzle. His routine in his days the way he writes. He tries to ignore the compulsions but he can't. I don't think so. He wants everyone to see and accept him. He had no parents no affection for his achievements and brilliance. He thought Thomas Wayne would do so but he died and was lost in the system
godspell @godspell He wanted the boss man to see how brillant he is over the smooth talker that takes credit for his work
Lamby @momoichi doesnt ocd force you to follow strict regimens? like, you have to flick the lights on three times when you enter a room? or washing your hands til theyr white or red? or that the sky will fall if you dont walk up the last step ont he stairs twice? i think ocd is more of a way to control your environment as a way of controlling your life. i had some mild ocd when i was younger because of my anxiety. anxiety does give you racing, intrusive, and looping thoughts, but it has to be rreaalll bad to give you ocd. i think he just has bad anxiety and a bit of apophenia
Lamby @momoichi i dont think he nessecarily wants everyone to accept him, i think hed be satisfied with an 'atta boy' from any older man. and he was obsessed with batman because he was the perfect friend in his mind, someone he could project himself onto.
Lamby @momoichi thats actually a small criticism i have. hes not like how he is in the movie. we dont see him really want to be seen by everyone or anyone, for people to see how smart he is and that hes a savior and hero, he just wanted revenge and didnt care who knew it was him. though maybe im over stepping in this. he did give batman the 'no one cares whats behind the mask' speech, so maybe he didnt care about the recognition
godspell @godspell He believed batman was like him methodical and cold to his approach that he would understand. The rage he has to the scum of the city is like his. But idk ocd for the riddler has always been that uncontrollably urge to leave a riddle or always has to think of way. He moved from numbers to riddles I'm sure if I keep ridding it
Lamby @momoichi but regardless, in the book edward has already tried to kill someone at this point in his life, but his comic counterpart seems far more docile
godspell @godspell Reading it
Lamby @momoichi yeah but we dont see that form of ocd. just the racing, looping thoughts. from his internal dialogue, we can see that he knows he struggled with obsessive thoughts, which i think implies he likely has some form of apophenia. which also explains the talent in puzzles and why he sees a lot of things this way. but he seems to be very down to earth with his anxiety over all though, and i appreciate it. its the best part about him. hes one of us
Lamby @momoichi yes please and please enjoy and also keep talking with me about it ;w;
godspell @godspell Idk I think he's perfect as riddler and I want to keep that mindset that he's ocd over his looping thoughts and riddles. And how strong his obsession that starts from being told he made a mistake
Lamby @momoichi yeah the ego is very subtle, but still there! i love it! ugh i want him to bend over my shoulder and correct things im doing, just info sperg into my ear in a deadpan autistic voice. the dream.
godspell @godspell It's very unfortunate though. If Bruce Wayne did the Bruce Wayne persona on bettering the city on how he usually does he would have noticed Riddler and gave him a better position and work location. Bc he's so brillant with numbers I wouldn't be suprise if he could turn a business or city around
Lamby @momoichi yeah bruce really dropped the ball by not immediately getting into the family business when he graduated. he could have seen the corruption and stopped it and reimbursed the fund. edward would have gotten his money and would have lived a different life. though how different? i think its another thing, edward kinda seemed lost at that point. money helps, a good education would help, but theres no fixing those scars. it was already too late. plus youll learn a little fact about his mom that makes the end of his story all that sadder
godspell @godspell If he had a better work environment which is a must he might get the affirmation he needs to ignore his compulsion. Bc Bruce wouldn't ignore Ed findings on how they're using the renewal project as a laundering project
Lamby @momoichi i actually disagree kinda. i thought it was silly he (seemingly) wanted zach's position as team leader. because zach is right. hes not social. why would he want a position where you have to interact with others? i think his work suits him best, no? i mean, does he even want to socialize with anyone there? he seems like the youngest around as well. and being good with numbers isnt to say your good managing people. but i guess it was more a 'i would have atleast liked to be asked,' like a principle thing.
Lamby @momoichi do you think if people gave him positive attention, hed lean less into his compulsions?
godspell @godspell I believe so. If he knows he's number one he could do better. Because imagine him exposing laundering or finding dirty money in the city. And sending them to jail. Especially the ones who ruin his childhood
Lamby @momoichi yeah, but those kind of things are bandaids. what if mr.stone wasn't corrupt? what if he pat him on the back and told him he did a great job? you know what would happen? he'd be happy. and then hed get on the train. and then hes back in his apartment. alone. with still only his puzzles as friends. i think his issues are far deeper then a pat on the back
godspell @godspell Idk wouldn't he find any satisfaction and closure from him destroying and rebuilding renewal to give orphans the chance he didn't get
godspell @godspell Also can I talk about how I need a tmnt Ronin movie. Like very badly
Lamby @momoichi thats the thing, i dont think he ever gave a damn about anyone but himself. in the book he burned down the wayne estate, burned down the orphanage. where did the orphans go? was it truly better than the orphanage? and did he not consider the orphans he would be making by flooding the city? the children that would die? the poor destitute like himself that would die? no, he never cared. he just thought of himself and his own satisfaction
Lamby @momoichi NO soon but just a few more sentences about year one. we always talk about your stuff i wanna talk about mine >:O
godspell @godspell He took it's as more as Noah's flood if you think about it. Cleanse the unclean with the scum of gotham 1 percent
godspell @godspell Hey you enjoy the shit I talk about xD
Lamby @momoichi yeah i loved the biblical references. i can see why hed love that hardcore old testament stuff
Lamby @momoichi i dont though xD i dont care about comics or marvel or superheroes. you should know that, i always poopoo them lol. i talk about them because you want to talk about them
godspell @godspell Yes you do xD you love the discussion and arguments it's brain tingling. And we can talk more about your stuff. Just hit me up with whatever you want xD and what you talk about. We talk about so much irl to cartoons to Manga and anime xD
Lamby @momoichi i mean i argue because its all i can add. i cant really engage positively with media im not a fan of. i dont totally not mind talking about cape stuff with you, your my friend and im glad your happy, but id like to talk about stuff i like too
godspell @godspell That's fine just hit me with a conversation first with what you want. I know I'll read two more chapters tonight
godspell @godspell But you do like cape stuff. You just haven't been exposed to the right stuff of comics
Lamby @momoichi i mean i like the batman and the other guardians of the galaxy, and i just rewatched hellboy and fuck was it cringe but in a good way. ron pearlman is the fucking man. but you usually wanna talk about marvel stuff and funkos and other stuff i either actively hate or just am disinterested in. which is fine, again your my friend and im happy your happy and you dont get angry when i do shit on these things which i appreciate, just i only talk about them for you.
Lamby @momoichi yeah tell me when you read them! im curious how you find he fits or doesnt fit the movie riddler as well!!
godspell @godspell There's so many batman comics I could recommend for riddler it's great DX there's one where hes hired by a security firm to better their security but the place ends up getting rob that same day and he's kidnapped. And batman has a way to communicate with him. But the ocd riddle fool can only send him the messages in riddles
godspell @godspell Ay you actually enjoy when I share my funko finds they're enjoyable. But I know you hate them. I just don't have anyone to share my achievements with
Lamby @momoichi no no no no no no i LOVE this riddler because hes so down to earth! because hes like us! i LOVED venture bros for the same reason, i just LOVE, i become OBSESSED, when people ground and take a real approach to capeshit. adding bureaucracy to things like the guild of calamitous intent was so funny! arching without a permit! thats hilarious! i love it it makes my brain tingle in all the RIGHT ways! and how creative it was to make edward n(ashton) into a terminally online redditor! UGH i cant wait to see how he handles joker and clayface!
Lamby @momoichi no i get that, whats why i dont complain (usually)! im glad your happy! i just NEED to talk about the riddler comics and the batman or my manifesto WILL make it onto the news ;w;
godspell @godspell Man I'm very scared of his joker tbh. It can be a miss for all I know. We honestly could have made the batman trilogy without joker and I'd have been happy
Lamby @momoichi i mean, who can top arthur from the joker? i hope he tries to take that approach but doesnt lean toooo into the nihilism. joker is an absurdist if anything after all. did you see that apparently at present in the movie hes not known as 'the joker' yet?
godspell @godspell Yeah I figure as much. He feels like a serial killer that gets knocked into the vat of acid. And was realistic on the boils and how destroyed his skin is. How his nails are destroyed from scratching the vat trying to climb out
godspell @godspell Help me decide I want to buy only one nft. Demogorgon or Owl bear but I can't decide
godspell @godspell You wanna watch venture bros movie together when you catch up
Lamby @momoichi oh fuck i forgot im ment to be binging venture bros. fuck theres just so much to watch. you ever watch live streamers?
Lamby @momoichi i like the idea that batman accidently makes all these villains. like he is the reason the joker has those scars, and his insults is what drove the riddler past the brink of salvation
Lamby @momoichi uuuggghhh owl bear, not a fan of stranger things
godspell @godspell Don't worry it's dnd related. Like demogorgon this hair beast with two heads. They just both look cool. Live streamers in general or is that what they're called? Yeah but you can basically say the opposite that the villains created batman.
godspell @godspell In batman the animated series the villains kidnap batman and a lawyer. The lawyer believes batman created these villains and if he didn't exist the villains would never be here. But as she's questioning the villains listening to their back stories. She realizes no matter if batman was in being or not. These villains would have became who they are today regardless. That they're the symptoms of gotham and they created the batman
Lamby @momoichi streamers yet, sorry im talkin like a boomer. its a chicken or the egg thing i think. does batman bring out the villains, or are the villains brought out by him? from what wev seen, riddler never would have done what he did if batman wasnt around, so seems the latter.
godspell @godspell In batman the animated series the villains kidnap batman and a lawyer. The lawyer believes batman created these villains and if he didn't exist the villains would never be here. But as she's questioning the villains listening to their back stories. She realizes no matter if batman was in being or not. These villains would have became who they are today regardless. That they're the symptoms of gotham and they created the batman
godspell @godspell Also I've never really watch any streamers tbh. Just don't have the time. But I like the idea watching what they're up to and what the places look like on stream
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WHEN YOU GON READ THE FUCKIN COMIC EVERY DAY YOU DONT READ IT IS A DAY CLOSER I GET TO YOUR HOUSE
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godspell @godspell I wish you could be at my house. We can have a sleepover. Read Manga together or any shit we can do
godspell @godspell I should just buy it. My brothers got me an awesome gift from my birthday. I also bought venom first comic
Lamby @momoichi if you dont read that fuckin comic soon you will wish otherwise *cracks knuckles*
Lamby @momoichi hell yeah, but i can give you the link now. idk when the physical copy comes out, but im copin' it asap when it does
godspell @godspell Ok send me a link. Hmm you might not wish yourself. I'm not trap here with you. You're trap here with me with my bear hug when I see you
Lamby @momoichi dude you open your arms up for a hug and you leave your entire core vulnerable! bam bam bam your down!
Lamby @momoichi https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/The-Riddler-Year-One/Issue-1?id=207263
Lamby @momoichi please please please please please please enjoy it and talk to me about it im desperate
godspell @godspell Yeah but you lose the only person you can talk to on Manga xD
Lamby @momoichi never said id kill you. you have many bones in your body, a few missing wont kill you >W>
godspell @godspell You never know. What if the broken bone pierces my lungs
Lamby @momoichi i am not so sloppy. when you plan on readin the comic?
godspell @godspell Probably after work tonight
Lamby @momoichi get back to me after issue one pleeaassse man my emotions are emaciated by the lack of conversation im having regarding this comic
godspell @godspell Yeah I don't mind doing so. Do you think clay face will be a giant clay monster
Lamby @momoichi oh eyah i actually went on the thebatman reddit to explore the clayface idea. the best post i saw and what i hoooope it will be will be he has masks he puts on and blends into the crowd after every crime. no way theyll go full ham with a monster, reeves himself said hes grounding this universe and the fuck for him is making these villains realistic. no way hes gonna be a monster or use some kinda cream. 10/10 it has to be masks (plus imagine if they realize clayface is clayface because they go into his room and skinned faces are all over the walls, just to realize theyr realistic masks, and thats how they realize its him.)
godspell @godspell That's OG clay face. The clay face from the 40s was an actor who was angry his movie was being remade. He was a one shot actor with one notable movie. He would disguise his face like clay and murder the actors
Lamby @momoichi i know, but yeah i dont think he'll be a monster. any idea how theyll ground him to be more realistic?
godspell @godspell Hmm I think he can still be a giant clay monster. Bc I want this to be batman animated series style somehow. But theres the clay face 3 I would rather them use. Bc it's a deform character that uses clayface dna to finally look normal. But he starts melting. So he tries to find a cure but when he feeling the melting happening he has to transfer it to someone else to melt in his place
Lamby @momoichi how do you think reeves could swing a realistic monster clayface? i mean riddler is chronically online incel domestic terrorist, thats how real hes making things
godspell @godspell Well honestly I'm not even sure. But I'm sure hell do better than nolan. Bc nolan wanted his set of movies super realistic. He even wanted scarecrow without his mask which is stupid
godspell @godspell Oh speaking of stupid people. Man I hate dan Harmon. Like he sucks man. I listen to his interview why marvel movie sucks or they're terrible. I'm like dumbass. Your own writing team writes for marvel like what are you saying
Lamby @momoichi well, as cillian himself says in the movie 'covering my face probably wouldn't bother a man like you, but the ladies, they hate it.' cant hire cillian murphy and cover him up for most of the movie. he is the best scarecrow, just needs lifts in his shoes. like, big lifts. like, a lot. maybe three stacked on top of eachother.
godspell @godspell Nah I think his scarecrow was decent it wasn't perfect. I just hate seeing the scarecrow being a henchman of sorts you know? He's capable to have the city in his clutches. And he's truly evil. He would hold the city ransom and even if he doesn't get the money. He won't be perturbed at all. Bc he wants to see what his gas will do to people
Lamby @momoichi i mean, harmon is a terrible person for sexually harassing and then normally harassing a woman and thinking he an apologize and alls forgiven. hes probz a talented writer, just a shitty person. yeah wasnt he famous for shitting on marvel movies? im not inclined to disagree with him xD but i get it sucks hearing something you like being shit on, specially by a shitty human being like him. you saw how he infantalized himself in the last season with the return of that narrative train guy? 'boohoo im a writer who makes millions but im gonna pretend im one of the writers that does live paycheck to paycheck.' insufferable.
Lamby @momoichi true, gabaghul ruined that movie. thats what i mean when i say things get too extreme. scarecrow wanting to jerk his dick to the scared masses is one thing, but an organization trying to use his evil plan to snuff out the denizens of gotham because theyr akthually totes the moral ones is... totally coherent yeah mhm.
godspell @godspell I think that one was better than the first time we saw the train guy tbh. But I'm mean he's shitting on people who are on his writing team. Bc a majority of rick and morty writers write for marvel. But man I really did like the last season of rick and morty. It always feels like uneducated people are telling me the new season was garbage or barely watchable
Lamby @momoichi *shrug* i just remember him using that episode to shoehorn himself in so he can larp as a starving artist despite making hundreds of thousands. i dont even remember a chunk of the l;ast season, id have to be reminded what happened (which is saying it was boring) im not sure what qualifies someone as 'educated' but i will 100% shit on rick and morty >W>
godspell @godspell Night family was really good for rick and morty for example. Showing the different style or genre that can happen for the franchise
Lamby @momoichi that was good, yeah. any other good eps though?
godspell @godspell A Rickconvenient Mort. Where we see Planetina and morty relationship blosoom and end. That was has stick with me more than any of the episodes of rick and morty
godspell @godspell The episode where rick has to assemble millions of morty in the vr set
Lamby @momoichi what was impactful about planetina? you ever seen human resources? they actually did a very good start and stop single episode romance.
Lamby @momoichi i liked the idea, but the ending sucked because we get another 'rick is a silent good guy uwu' when it should have been rick erasing mortys rebellion to control him. you remember when harmon said theyd never tell you why rick was an alcoholic because it would undercut the cruelty of his actions? i fuckin do.
godspell @godspell I didn't take the ending as that. Rick did something nice. But he's still a horrible person. He couldnt answer the morties when they show he doesn't love all of morty. He cares about the better parts of him instead of him as a whole. The best of morty got left behind on what morty could be. Confident defiant.
godspell @godspell And it's gone. Its really revelant to the character development of morty.
Lamby @momoichi he did something out of character.
Lamby @momoichi what character development did we get from planetina that then reappears in the following episodes?
godspell @godspell I think Planetina was amazing. It reminds you of how first love and first heartache always is. It shows so much of morty raw character analysis. He was resilient and would do anything he can to make her happy even though they didn't have anything in common. Normally morty would run away from danger but he didn't. Love is crazy. Not only is morty at a focal point
godspell @godspell But Beth as well as a mom. She sees what's going on and knows where it was going. Because they had conflicting interests and goals that conflicts with their moral ground. But Beth not at fault when morty lashes out. At the end of the episode when they break up morty has to end it. Even though his heart says don't do it. And his mom is there to provide the support he needs.
godspell @godspell I honestly don't think she's ever had a real parenting moment where it's not the result of a botch experiment or after she made a mistake
Lamby @momoichi i like substance. it doesnt even need to add character development so long as it means something. something that i hate about rick and morty is that they have the ultimate story deus ex machina; parallel universes. you wanna give character development and retract it for creative leeway? say this is a different rick and morty. its that easy. i could have no complaints, its clever way of circumventing lazy writing. and yet and yet and yet and yet.
Lamby @momoichi vat of acid and unity were A+ romance stories
godspell @godspell Those two were good. But I still like Planetina more. Bc it's more of a morty episode than anything else something a majority of viewers can relate to
Lamby @momoichi what?! how is planetina better!! the ending of unity was a fucking gut punch! that is actually character development! that our angry cruel rick is also fucking sad and lonely!
godspell @godspell Hmm I think the ending for morty crying into his moms arms about how much he loved her. Really hurts a lot bc we've all done that to our own mom or friend
Lamby @momoichi dont remember that part.
Lamby @momoichi but i will say, rick trying to kill himself is sadder than morty crying to his mom xD
godspell @godspell Hmm idk the build up to it is very raw to me. And the voice acting sells it. Rick killing himself just feels normal. The episode reminds you how young morty actually is and how human he is vs rick who's a god
Lamby @momoichi i think the impact of the unity episode was no, we didnt know that about rick yet. that rick was angry, callous, rude, mean, hedonistic, but ultimately selfish. so to find out he was in enough pain to kill himself? that was new at the time. thats why it was such a gut punch
Lamby @momoichi oh, i think we got the birdperson telling us 'wubalubadubdub means i am in great pain' but that was the only indication and it was played for laughs later on. but im 99% sure that was the extent that we knew
godspell @godspell Idk I guess it has. When I rewatch it. It doesn't hit me at all. I can't relate to rick toxicity hurting everyone and then himself
Lamby @momoichi probz cause you had the knowledge, but im sure back in the day it was a surprise. i dont think you have to empathize with characters to feel for them, theres sympathy as well. like i havent done half the horrible shit bojack has but it still hurts to watch him self destruct
godspell @godspell I feel very self destructive and constantly depreciate myself over an over again. That sometimes I don't even notice I do it
Lamby @momoichi sure but you (i hope) havent fucked a teenager or influenced a girl to relapse and later die >W>
godspell @godspell No I haven't. Id be suprise if I have
godspell @godspell One of my workers crashed their car so I've been struggling at work today that I might leave late
Lamby @momoichi id be surprised. damn, least your not workin nights anymore
godspell @godspell I work every night. I also have it harder we hired people for the kitchen but they struggle super hard with English. So I always have to fix things or explain them
Lamby @momoichi your working day through night, or like afternoon into the night?
godspell @godspell 5 until 10. But my workers kinda suck so I'm always staying way longer
godspell @godspell I'm also suffering from knee issues.
Lamby @momoichi are you bilingual? knee issues are tough, got any ice for them when you can? iv heard great things about biofreeze
godspell @godspell I am. And my knee feels like it's moving around like it clicks when I stand or walk. It was much worse before but I keep using a knee brace. I should just exercise rehab style to build knee muscles
Lamby @momoichi does the knee brace help? i hear back braces are really important as well
godspell @godspell Not really. It does help with the pain but the knee keeps clicking or creaking
Lamby @momoichi the brace is ment to keep you from bending it wrong, right?
godspell @godspell I have no idea. But I'll probably start exercising my knees tonight
godspell @godspell You think the pluto anime will be good
Lamby @momoichi can you exercise knees? isnt the issue the cartilage gets worn away from too frequent use? never read the manga so i cant speak to the anime
godspell @godspell Well you can. You build muscle around the knees. I honestly don't think I've worn down the cartilage it could be an unbalance muscle or a ligament issue
godspell @godspell Also they're doing an issekai for suicide squad
Lamby @momoichi of... of course it is... *deep sad sigh*
godspell @godspell Posted the trailer. Also I've been really liking the new animated superman show btw. They take a lot of inspiration from anime.
Lamby @momoichi im good lol, i do not plan to watch it. the first animated movie and the suicide squad was enough
godspell @godspell There's 2 or 3 animated movies for them. I like the idea. I really wanna watch it. But it probably doesn't have anything on the Harley Quinn animated show
Lamby @momoichi yeah it seems right up your alley. i heard rick and morty was getting an anime too, right?
godspell @godspell There's talks of it. But after Justin rolliand I doubt it
Lamby @momoichi *shrugs* why not? perfect news to bury his story. they already had like, two anime shorts? is it just a rumor or do they have a studio down?
godspell @godspell No he's been removed from all roles and fired. The domestic abuse charges were drop. His voicing duties for corvo has already happen and we saw the teaser and explanation for the voice change for solar opposites
godspell @godspell Rick and morty still hasn't been announce on who's doing it
Lamby @momoichi i knows hes been fired and the charges were dropped and hes singing his innocence, but most everyones forgotten already. you sure they didnt already replace him too? or am i just thinking of some youtube short clickbait?
Lamby @momoichi firing him hardly even ment anything since he hasnt written shit since season 2 and apparently simply actively annoyed everyone. they were probably relieved to be rid of him
godspell @godspell Korvo been replaced already. The new actor British or Australian for korvo. Korvo gets stab in the throat and to fix his voice they shoot him with a voice fixing ray but they screw up the settings
Lamby @momoichi hilarious. perfect way to address that, but it better sound good or ill cry (i love solar opposites)
godspell @godspell I think it's fine. They even had him run the intro how he's insulting you for thinking this is someone else. Not the other korvo voice. And it opens possibility of new voices for korvo if you think about it
Lamby @momoichi baaaaaaased i loved the little intro jokes
Lamby @momoichi any new little world content in the trailer?
godspell @godspell Just posted the season 4 trailer. And new little world Content? You mean the wall?
Lamby @momoichi yeah the wall. not gonna watch any trailers atm, can you tell me?
godspell @godspell Oh I just wanted you to see how they explain his new voice. And not yet no. I mean they did do a new sub plot with the silver somethings
Lamby @momoichi yeah but im not a fan of watching trailers cause i dont wanna spoil too much
godspell @godspell Ok can you take it as listening to the new voice. For me it's kinda jarring like I wonder if I can get used it
Lamby @momoichi you dont like the voice?
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godspell @godspell It's just odd after hearing one voice for 3 seasons
Lamby @momoichi true, korvo has korvo voice. this one doesnt fit, or just not use to it?
godspell @godspell Just not use to it. I mean 3 season with a voice actor can do that. English dub replacements are so odd to me
godspell @godspell They say for rick and morty they won't do that. They're gonna get someone who can get close to the voices
Lamby @momoichi i mean they have to, he voiced a lot of characters. but everyone has a rick and morty voice, its not hard to do
godspell @godspell Idk there's something different about it. Bc if it was so easy they would have announced an actor by now
Lamby @momoichi nah, no way they havent found someone yet, they probz have a bunch of options theyr keeping open for contract negotiations.
godspell @godspell We'll see. I keep seeing these auditions on Twitter and I think they suck
Lamby @momoichi no fuckin way iv seen compilations and they were really good. the cadence is so exaggerated naturally its so easy to replicate
godspell @godspell Idk I think they're pretty bad. Also btw I'm so excited. My brothers bought me a Freddy funko megazord
Lamby @momoichi aw thats nice
godspell @godspell Yeah it's the one nft I was missing. Bc the green ranger committed suicide so all the nfts went up. I wasn't paying 300 plus on it
Lamby @momoichi nice of him
godspell @godspell Yeah I'm still pretty sad that he killed himself
Lamby @momoichi wasnt the green one evil in lore or something? hes really popular
godspell @godspell He was evil then they saved him from the mind control.
Lamby @momoichi phew
godspell @godspell Yeah. The comics are really good for power ranger though. Also we should watch tmnt movie together
Lamby @momoichi not really interested in tmnt. im sure its a fun movie though
godspell @godspell I wanna watch it badly. I'm glad they act like teenagers this time around. Plus the villain not even shredder but the scientist who usually works for him
Lamby @momoichi wasnt tmnt created as a gag? why cant the bad guy be krang?
godspell @godspell Krang is a villain and usually different mutants. Not really when they were created they were very serious black and white stories
Lamby @momoichi no, theyr origin was a joke. thats why its so absurd. no one organically thinks 'teenage mutant ninja turtles... that sounds like a very good comic idea..."
godspell @godspell They did see it as goofy when they drew them in a comic they were working on the as they kept designing them they were inspired to create something awesome. Ususagi yojimbo a really good comic. I gave my brother the comic for his birthday
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buhbuhbuhbuhbuhbrooo you see your greatest wish came true? clayface is gonna be in the new the batman?
godspell @godspell Yeah I can't wait for that to be the case. Also you missed my birthday yesterday lol
godspell @godspell Unfortunately I have to celebrate it with people on maiotaku.com being jerks.
Lamby @momoichi ddaaaaamn missed it by a day. well, happy bday. got everything you wanted?
Lamby @momoichi jerks? what happened?
godspell @godspell Well I wanted to celebrate my birthday yesterday with 20 Manga recommendations. After compiling them into better reviews bc I do believe it can be better. Just to find someone recommends Harry Potter manga is the best. I told them off. But red says I should expect it that it makes me look bad for doing so. So blocked him. Now bc of how disappointed I was now people are just trolling my thread with Bible the best
godspell @godspell I honestly found red to be very disappointing especially. On the way he treated it especially as a mod.
Lamby @momoichi sounds annoying someone would recommend harry potter, but joking isnt necessarily teasing. it might have just been light hearted, though i do get that its annoying when your not taken seriously. how bad did you tell them off? was the thread asking for manga to read or were you recommending manga to people and putting your reviews? im sorry people werent taking the thread seriously regardless, i know thats really annoying. anything i can do to make you feel better?
godspell @godspell No I just told red before blocking him that I just don't plan to upload anymore threads. It was the first time I contribute to this site. Well considering their name is degenerate and a racist name for their location probably trolling. I told them I hate how you did this. It's incredibly frustrating to find this on my thread. And I don't mind if people put Manga they recommend people to read. But using something I enjoy and love to hope maybe people can read something not mainstream would have been nice
Lamby @momoichi yeah, sorry that happened. anime fans have a reputation for a reason unfortunately
godspell @godspell Yeah thank you for posting on the thread. Still makes me glad I have very few fans in anime community. A lot of them are very immature and basic
Lamby @momoichi i love manga recommendation threads, i wish they were more active. but too many low effort animeonlies in the community >:0
godspell @godspell Yeah the guy who just recommended the Bible is the same dumbass who said jujutsu kaisen mid.
godspell @godspell So disappointing. Especially when you realize Gojo was actually gay
Lamby @momoichi well, heh, i mean, broken clock... but yeah, some people dont seem to get that razzing only works when its your friend, and that dogpiling isnt onto someone who just wanted a serious thread isnt an 'le epic wen uwu' they think it is. i wish mai would peak again so we could get a new wave of members. use to filter members in and out every few years but now its just the same peeps. why not make your own thread and post your stuff there? if someone goes into your personal thread and posts shit you dont like you have more leeway to complain about it
godspell @godspell The Manga recommendations was my thread. I started it. It's unfortunate. But at least I don't have to see the first page anymore. But yeah do you think Gojo was gay or not. I believe he actually was for geto
Lamby @momoichi sure but it was an open thread. if you made your won and stated its a thread for you, youd have more say in what happens in it. but yeah, it was immature of them to immediately shit up your thread when your likely a stranger to them. people who razz people they dont even know and go 'just a joke chill' are the worst lol. bruh in jujutsu i never got past the tournament arc with the flower nature demon. the animation was stellar, but from where i was reading it kinda peaked with that sad bullied guy being turned into a demon/monster thing. i dont care about gojo, hes over hyped, i hate those genki pretty boy but also suuuper serious and strong types. hes like a young kakashi type (who im sure was his inspiration). its husbandobait and i aint bitin'. now, toji on the other hand....
godspell @godspell Yeah but keep in mind for Gojo he's a forced God by people. He's made to carry all the work for organization. His one true goal is for kids not to be exploited by sorcerers no more. That they can grow to be an adult and be strong. Jujutsu kaisen whole premises is that the world is broken that we shouldn't exploit children in the battle of adults. Kids are made to take on missions and groomed/rape in the series. Taken away too sook
Lamby @momoichi bro ssshhhh im not gonna read it if it gets spoiled for me xD!
godspell @godspell Oh I'm sorry. But it doesn't spoil it too badly. But I highly recommend you to keep reading. Though you keep confusing me lol how do you get to flower demon but still know Toji lol
godspell @godspell I just think how amazing jujutsu kaisen points out all the flaws in the exorcist type stories. It's sorta the antithesis of chainsawman
Lamby @momoichi oh i just saw him from people posting panels of the manga when he arrives. iv read some of the pages iv seen posted of him so i know the basics (only woman he ever loved with megumi or whatever his name is mom but she died so he became a dead beat again stuff like that)
Lamby @momoichi do you like it better than chainsawman? i remember back in the day jujutsucucks would come into the chainsawman threads and shit them up about how better jujutsu was when its just another shonen with no more depth than naruto had.
Lamby @momoichi wait that came off really shitty xD!! total anecdote not saying your like that, just a fun factoid i recalled regarding jujutsu and chainsawman fan interactions. that being said, i stick with my naruto point, but that isnt to say naruto wasnt deep and thoughtful at points, i love naruto and still hold it dear.
godspell @godspell Hmm Toji didn't become a deadbeat bc of it. Toji the scorn for being the strongest without any curse energy like Maki. He got tame bc he fell in love with megumi mom and left bc they could give megumi a better life than he could. But he loves megumi a lot. Megumi complains his name a girl name. But Toji says I name him blessings bc he's a blessing to me
godspell @godspell I like chainsawman there's no comparison bc they tell of two different tales with different messages. So they can stand on their own. Right now jujutsu at the pinaccle where every week Twitter goes on fire
Lamby @momoichi wwhoooaa again info dumpin! arent chainsawman and jujutsu very similar? thats why the fanbases clashed so often, the base stories are the same, human fear being personified into things that can harm us and the organization of people that are trained to defeat them and protect humanity.
Lamby @momoichi they released very closely to each other too, though i thiiinnnkkk chainsawman was first?
godspell @godspell Jujutsu was first. It came out in March. While chainsawman started in December
Lamby @momoichi ah, yeah like i said extremely close to each other. personally jujutsu is too typically shonen for me to get emotionally invested in, like does jujutsu have a character like aldo?
Lamby @momoichi PLUS the assassin arc was one of the peak manga arcs of modern shonen. when since the gantz osaka arc was there one as hyped and one nearly as fun and chaotic?!
godspell @godspell Hmm jujitsu the type of story every arc beats the next arc. Like the one after this tournament is super peak and amazing. Plus it shows you how sakuna is the most unforgivable character of all time
godspell @godspell I think they created the best op supporting character in Gojo.
godspell @godspell Also did you see the most anticipated episode of one piece and the complete conflict over it on fans and haters xD
Lamby @momoichi idk. i think jujutsu is like, sky high shounen. where the stakes are rewards are always high. people are the STRONGEST and stuff. so many extremes. chainsawman was surprisngly down to earth at the end of the day despite its chaotic nature. i really cant properly put down jujutsu as i just dont know it well enough (i will say though for the anime putting that emohairbulliedguy in the op was genius, i truly was blindsided by his death) but there really arent any shounens like chainsawman just by the virtue of how down to earth it was back in the day. i think the general theme (despite the biblical stuff) is about how contentment > happiness. denji's 'i dont want one gf, i want 100!! i dont want toast with jam i want steak!' was about how happiness is a carrot on a stick, but the content he felt with his family was the true goal. and its very clear that pochita making the contract 'live a good/happy life' is what keeps hanging denji's happiness in the balance. like, how many manga can claim something this simple yet have all this chaos going on in the background at the same time?
Lamby @momoichi have kept up with one piece since they changed the og va's to dbz va's
Lamby @momoichi like, the driving force of chainsawmans plot is denji's happiness. and happiness in general. like war devil wanting a friend but she cant cause shes the WAR devil, chainsaw devil wanting a hug but he cant cause hes the CHAINSAW devil, the control devil wanting a healthy relationship (family) but she cant because shes the CONTROL devil. the message seems to be consistantly the struggle for things you cant have, and how we can overcome this. like denji and happiness.
godspell @godspell I can argue that with jujutsu kaisen. Gojo wants to flip the etiquette of the jujitsu world where no kid should be exploited. No kid should suffer injustices just because they were born with curse energy and thrust into hell. Its an anthesis to series like blue exorcist or any Shonen that sends kids into the front lines or being the protangists when their lives will never be normal again. Or they lose their lives young. Yeah people are made saying luffy new form shouldn't be compare to Goku super saiyan first time. But hello same studio did both.
godspell @godspell That is brilliant in chainsawman
Lamby @momoichi denji wants warm toast with jam and a family. gojo wants to upend the traditions of his entire society. one is simple, the other is extreme
godspell @godspell Yeah that's fair. Idk I think it's simple. It's like saying a big fuck you to Shonen Manga that usually has the tendency to use kids and make them go through shit
Lamby @momoichi i guess by simple i mean relatable. oh, like mob psycho's whole 'dont make kids to crazy things, theyr only kids they shouldnt be sacrificing anything?' based af
godspell @godspell Yeah it is. I forgot that did happen in mob. Man I cried so hard for the ending for that. It's still an incredible Shonen that should be remembered. Like if you keep reading you realize how Gojo Eyewear changes through his back story to a black blindfold so he doesn't see the world
Lamby @momoichi bro i never finished mob psycho :/ one of my biggest shames
godspell @godspell Just watch the anime. The anime brilliant so good.
godspell @godspell Also I found out my favorite author has his 5th series out. And I had no idea
Lamby @momoichi nooooooooooo i love ones art its so endearing! plus with the manga you get all the omake's like in character interviews and that one omake of young mob and his little umbrella
godspell @godspell Lol you're so watching the anime with me if we ever hang out. But man what I sham I am bc I kept looking up if he's made a new series and fail to see he started one in 2018 but he's been on hiatus for 2 yrs
Lamby @momoichi AFTER i finish the manga. but yeah bones went HAAARRDDD with the anime. really leaned into the yumejo community and i cant thank them enough. one writes the best fanservice without even intending to. hiatus is better than it being officially sacked
godspell @godspell No one would ever cancel Naoki Urasawa. Youd be fired for doing that
Lamby @momoichi ill be the judge of that. what manga has he done?
godspell @godspell Monster. 20 th century boys. Pluto. Billy bat. And his new series Asadora
Lamby @momoichi wtf the monster guy did 20th century boys and pluto!?
godspell @godspell Yes. He's amazing isn't he?? His way of storytelling is fantastic. He writes incredible supporting characters
Lamby @momoichi hot damn. when did monster come out?
godspell @godspell 1994
Lamby @momoichi oh. btw. i watched the new guardian of the galaxy and dude. i feel lied to. you said it was so good and it was the first guardians i hated
godspell @godspell Lol what was wrong with it
Lamby @momoichi dude! the star was rocky! we got to see his past! we got to become invested in his story! AND PETER QUILL IS THE ONLY ONE THAT CARES ABOUT REVENGE!? IT WAS ROCKYS STORY AND HE DIDNT CARE AT ALL?! THE BLUE CHICK SAID THAT ROCKY WENT THROUGH WORST TORTURE THAN HER AND SHE SAYS IN THAT VERY MOVIE THANOS REMOVED HER EYES TO TORTURE HER BT ROCKY HAD IT WORSE AND YET! AND YET! ROCKY DOESNT CARE! HE JUST WANTS TO HELP THE ANIMALS!? that dude was literally his father and god, and his dad god didnt trigger anything in him? seeing the man he just hate and love above any other didnt do anything to him? he had to be pushed to fight him?? why not make him sacrifice his revenge to save the animals! why make it so its like he doesnt care at all! WHY DOES PETER QUILL CARE MORE THAN ROCKY ABOUT ROCKYS DAD GOD?! holy fuck, i love guardians of the galaxy, and your right that guy was a great villain, BUT WHAT WAS THAT ENDING?!
Lamby @momoichi also forcing groot into the role of comic relief background character is a sin. and that snail woman is just a mean version of the blue guy. they do not interact interestingly, just to bicker. and why even bring gamora or whatever her name is back? why cant deaths be deaths? why cant the dead stay dead why can we never have any real impact happen? or ATLEAST keep them semi- friends, because gamora was right, she is her own person. she is not peter quills gamora, but who cares cause hes the main character and he gets to just act like shes an entirely different person and act entitled to her affections and it totally isnt harassment. *takes a deep breath* yeah. jeez. i mean, on the surface its got some funny moments, but even the new alien designs are uninspired compared to the old designs
Lamby @momoichi oh, and wtf was the scene with him and the otter? so heaven is real? like what the actual fuck is going on lol
godspell @godspell Rocket choose not to kill him so he can be above the violence. From guardians 1 2 even the Christmas special. He's always hurt people judging his appearance. And here across from is the man who destroyed him and his friends. But he chose to let him live. He's destroyed his face. His plans. And has to live that his creation surpasses him and let's him live.
Lamby @momoichi groot is rockys best friend. but also hes not in the majority of the movie and is basically a set piece. nice.
Lamby @momoichi when in that movie does rocky become confronted with his over use of violence? when does this reconciliation happen? and even if i granted that, again, this dude is his god and his father. no feelings seeing him again? just wants to go his merry way? no lingering feelings? at all? just hi and bye?
Lamby @momoichi again, the movie states he was tortured worse than thanos tortured the blue chick. thats how bad rocky was tortured. but nah hes good
godspell @godspell Heaven is a real thing in marvel. There are different planes of the afterlife present in the series. In black panther and Egyptian after life. Well Gamora back bc marvel forced it to happen so they can have her around. Gunn would have rather her dead. But he wrote her in on how people shouldn't force their affection on others. But it's sadder Quill has to say goodbye to her again. And accept they were great and move on from her. That's why he decides to go back to earth to confront the things he ran from. Quill wanted to kill evolutionary bc losing rocket was almost like losing his mom again
godspell @godspell Groot story was over. We only see the evolution of his alien species. He's rocket son bc he isn't groot from the first movie he just has groot memories. And he saw Gamora as his mom that's why it's pretty sad around her and when she finally understands him. And when we hear him say I love you guys. It's bc we've been around groot enough to understand his language
Lamby @momoichi if heaven is real than why do i ever care if someone dies? based james gunn in that case, but peter quill, to my memory, is never admonished for pushing his feelings onto gamora and ignoring her autonomy. dont they part on good terms?
Lamby @momoichi i know the groot lore, but again, groot was his best friend. why not include his feelings for rocky? we push old gamora onto new gamora and she is literally a different person. this new groot actually has groots old memories, he knows rocky, even if the body and parts of the mind are different, he knows rocky the way old groot new rocky
godspell @godspell They do. But remember Gamora was giving quill shit for doing this and letting him figure this out on his own. That she's not the same she didn't care until later about giving up rocket. I don't see them ever interacting again tbh. I think it was more prominent to show nebula feelings for rocket more so than anyone else. She loves rocket as her best friend. He was there with her for 5 years together. Someone that's never felt any love from anyone but rocket was always there for her
godspell @godspell Also marvel after life is vast. Valhalla is also an option for afterlife
Lamby @momoichi she gave him shit but, as i recall could be wrong, no one else was. and he was rewarded in the end. because he kept pushing her she stayed and because she stayed theyr on good terms, so this is justifying his actions. bro one of the best things about the movie (i did absolutely enjoy parts of it, again the humor was great and the set design was also great) was all the nebula. i fuckin love her and her character growth. plus gamora always looked lame, just green skin, nebula looked bad ass, like an alien should. i cant wait for more of her. if she got with peter it would be creepy since he was involved with her dead sister BUT i cant help but enjoy their chemistry. the reformed hardass and the philip j fry esque loveable screwup. that being said, why would she care more about rocky than mother fucking GROOT
Lamby @momoichi eh, why even bring up after life? thats like when shadowlands came out for wow and retconned how the after life works. like your crippling your lore by saying 'no, each culture is actually wrong about the after life, THIS is the concrete answer" like spitting in the eyes of every single races lore. its just unnecessarily and makes death into something thats completely comprehensible. half the weight of death is the finality and mystery, but nope, death isnt even real you just shift forms and life forever. 0 weight.
godspell @godspell Hmm not like anyone been resurrected. Gamora was displaced. Bc they took her from a different time line since she didn't want to return to her own time. Well it's like in wakanda forver. The kings of wakanda live in an afterlife to be asked questions to current kings when they drink the potion that gives them powers. It's also the roles for some of God's in marvel. Like for moon knight how they judge you for afterlife
godspell @godspell Can we discuss this later though before you disappear for another 3 months. But the finale for venture bros is here. The movie to end it finally here
Lamby @momoichi im... so bad for finishing shows... im like half way through the final season and have been for years... i never watched the last ep of mlp either or the last ep of archer...
Lamby @momoichi oh jeez i also havent seen the final ep for futurama too....!!!!
godspell @godspell You have to. Venture bros is finally over. It's so dumb too. HBO max steaming is removing it from their site for some reason. It's a shock to the creator after years and giving us the movie to end it. Futurama back on Hulu
Lamby @momoichi yeah i heard there was controversy over that. but to be fair, where could they go from there? the monarch becoming the blue morpho was kinda shark jumpy i think, wasnt a big fan (and please do not spoil anything regarding venture bros thats as far as i got)
godspell @godspell My theory is that he's Jonas son as well bc he's the worse human being ever and being such a sex deviant. So I wouldn't be surprise if he had sex with monarch mom. Also my theory on Rusty being a clone as well
Lamby @momoichi if he was, wouldnt the blue morpho thing not make much sense? because wasnt monarchs father blue morpho? but that would be such an austin powers ending lol but undeniably monarch and rusty do look similar
godspell @godspell I think it's because Jonas knows who blue morpho is bc kano was his side kick. And he had kano afterwards. His tendency to hurt everyone around him is so toxic and prominent in the show. He is the worst person ever
godspell @godspell But yeah if you remember the episode where dean meets the guy who help make the clones and he meets the red helper bot. He calls dean rusty. Implying that Rusty been a clone the entire time. Which is why Jonas venture Jr was created bc rusty was a fail clone as well
Lamby @momoichi just to be clear as its been years since i last watched, jonas is rustys father, right? i totally forget who kano is
godspell @godspell Kano the silent Asian guy part of the orginal venture team. Also blue morpho body guard before he join team venture. Jonas Sr is his dad. Remember how rusty had a twin that he absorbed but eventually came out to he his own person.
Lamby @momoichi oh did he have tiny glasses? OH right right i remember now. so you think jonas is monarchs dad?
godspell @godspell Yes easily. Bc he's a terrible person. Who wouldn't mind sleeping with a man's wife
Lamby @momoichi what impact do you think that revelations would have on the plot (without spoilers if possible)
godspell @godspell To show how awful Jonas sr is. And give peace between Rusty and The monarch to find out their brothers and live how they wanna live their lives without that huge shadow
godspell @godspell The venture bros dean and hank are important to finally finish their character arcs to be who they have to be and be happy. The whole premise for the movie is to show all the missing pieces to the story. Hank disappear to find himself. And it's a whole man hunt to find him bc somehow they can't find him
Lamby @momoichi we already kinda know how bad he is though. idk if finding out their brothers would mend things between them, i mean rusty is shitty toward jonas jr and he use to be inside him. yeah man, did you really enjoy the final season? cause the more i remember about it and less i remember liking it. i forget what the venture bros themselves were doing but i remember not being invested in it when they get to the city. i actually think i enjoyed the blue morpho stuff better. venture bros was always at its peak was satirizing super heroes, and shit like (red skull was his name?) and the guild of calamitous intent and that justice league rip was the fuckin best.
Lamby @momoichi fuck it. tonight im gonna rewatch it all over again and finally finish it. youv inspired me. such a good fuckin show UGH
godspell @godspell I think so. Bc remember monarch has never stated why he's hated Dr. Venture.
Lamby @momoichi wasnt it from college? or was that about someone else? i think they met in college, no? or am i thinking of phantom limb?
Lamby @momoichi wait phantom limb was partners with... was it billy?
godspell @godspell Well that's the joke for marvel for example. All the main players met in college the same one to make it more extreme. But yeah the monarch for the entire series has never stated why he hates him