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Lamby @momoichi
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Lamby @momoichi
ill add Kim A. Williams was the president of the American College of Cardiology and he is vegan and he himself promotes veganism for heart health

LaughingMan @laughingman_ddd
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LaughingMan @laughingman_ddd
@momoichi both the vegans and non vegans in that study are menstruating females, and despite that vegans had a significant increase in prevalance of Iron deficiency anemia, so I don't see why it would not be related to veganism. If the non-veg eaters in the study were males, your point would have been justified. So the study is not flawed. Infact menstruating females were chosen, especially cause it is them who are in risk of anemia, thus they need an omnivorous diet.

Lamby @momoichi
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Lamby @momoichi
did they count the vegan men and women differently, or did they combine the percentage of the two groups?
can you also address the other issues i brought up, because as i said I'm willing to bite the bullet that vegans need to supplement. i don't think it detracts from my argument what so ever

LaughingMan @laughingman_ddd
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LaughingMan @laughingman_ddd
They only counted vegan women and from 18-45 yrs, no men ^^
And most research papers always count the men and women seperately.
If u agree that vegans need a supplement pill, then vegan diet cannot be healthwise superior ^^

Lamby @momoichi
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Lamby @momoichi
"Ferritin Serum ferritin values among vegetarians varied considerably. Vegetarian females had much lower mean/geometric mean/median ferritin concentrations, compared to vegetarian males"
here, it even states here that the women were wildly worse then the men. why would that be if they had the same diet?
wait, are you saying omnivores never need to supplement? that they never had deficiencies?

Vagene @ahuman
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Vagene @ahuman
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LaughingMan @laughingman_ddd
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LaughingMan @laughingman_ddd
I meant the table 1 that I linked
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6367879/table/table1-1559827616682933/
This table from the study compares the vegetarian females from non vegetarian fmeales

Lamby @momoichi
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Lamby @momoichi
dude, seriously, this is just harassment
go away and leave me alone

Tiny Tom Cruise @rafaelsanzio
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Tiny Tom Cruise @rafaelsanzio
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Oyabun @senpaisamasan
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Oyabun @senpaisamasan
...just throwing it out there I supplement my lack of vitamins with juices
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