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because you wont want someone to pay to have a cat tortured because its fun for them to watch but you will pay to have a cow tortured for taste pleasure its hypocritical. both are unnessecary and both are paying for suffering you are no better, unless you can prove otherwise, which you haven't.

@Swadian Oh, good question. Tough one to answer too. There are a lot of prevailing theories out there, but as I lack the ability to test them, I would have to state on record that "I just don't know." Because truth be told, I could only count the number of human spirits I've run into contact with on one hand. Ghosts are kinda outside of my area of expertise after all. Now non-mortal spiritual entities tend to fall into my wavelength a lot more often. But this of course being the internet, allow me to preface my stance with three acknowledgements. 1: Of course, I could be wrong. 2: Even if I am right, I don't have all the answers. 3: I don't tell you what to believe, I only state what I believe based on experience. @rafaelsanzio I actually talk to alt right people all the time, and it takes a lot more than using an argument they use to be labeled as one by me. There's a particular way they USE their talking points to spread missinfo, and having one member in the KKK in the family, I've gotten very good at pointing them out. Be conservative all you want. You aren't alt right until you swing fascist, where nationalism, zenophobia, and sociopathy collide.

Chocopyro @chocopyro Thanks for taking the time to answer!

this moves to a different issue then. so is it ok for that person to kill cats and not torture them? they just wanna have fun seeing the cat die?