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Caleb of the cancer @caleb_williams
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Caleb of the cancer @caleb_williams
i say no because it is proven from date rape drugs that it still has physiological effects
Lamby @momoichi
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Lamby @momoichi
caleb, this is a hypothetical where she will never know
its just a thought experiment
Caleb of the cancer @caleb_williams
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Caleb of the cancer @caleb_williams
again no because a person can still feel when they are unconscious meaning it will still have psychological effects
Lamby @momoichi
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Lamby @momoichi
back on topic, i think wev covered the plant thing
want to play name the trait since wer already talking about brain dead people?
just name a trait that lacks in animals that if lacked in humans would also take away their moral consideration?
Caleb of the cancer @caleb_williams
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Caleb of the cancer @caleb_williams
our ability to reason with abstract concepts
Lamby @momoichi
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Lamby @momoichi
ok, so can you simplify this more?
like, our ability to read art kinda thing?
or perhaps intelligence?
Lamby @momoichi
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Lamby @momoichi
(had to google it)
so you mean the ability to have culture and markets and such?
Caleb of the cancer @caleb_williams
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Caleb of the cancer @caleb_williams
yes
Lamby @momoichi
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Lamby @momoichi
ok, so would you agree that people with severe mental handicaps cant properly comprehend what a market or culture is?
Caleb of the cancer @caleb_williams
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Caleb of the cancer @caleb_williams
no, because your talking someone who has mental handicaps that others would say is severe -_-
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