2020 US Presidential Election
Veru @verucassault
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Veru @verucassault
An unbiased judge would write like he went to law school for several years and learn to not pollute legal documents with disparaging remarks.
That is the only thing I am arguing.
Which by the way, you never gave me a yes or no answer.
So, since you are defending it, that's a "No, I do not think this legal document is biased," correct?
We now have a basis and standard for what you think is and is not biased for future reference.
Panda-kun™ @hell_hound7
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Panda-kun™ @hell_hound7
What i wanna know is if you have signed affidavits with eye witnesses and employes what other evidence do you need? There are countless instances of votes being left out "by accident" and getting lost or double counted due to software issues and no one thinks anythingbis wrong with this? Are we being serious here? Put aside voter fraud, put aside election integrity....what in the actual hell seems normal about this? Human error has no room to exist. You think the military can afford "human error" dealing with missles or NASA afford "human error" when people are being blasted offf in a rocket? Why is this ok?
Veru @verucassault
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Veru @verucassault
Judicial Writing Manual, Second Edition
I. Introduction
Judicial opinions serve three functions. First, written opinions communicate a court’s conclusions and the reasons for them to the parties
and their lawyers. Second, when published, opinions announce the
law to judges, academics, other lawyers, and the interested public. Finally, the preparation of a written opinion imposes intellectual discipline on the author, requiring the judge to clarify his or her reasoning
and assess the sufficiency of precedential support for it.
The opinion should fairly, clearly, and accurately state the significant facts and relevant rules of law and demonstrate by its analysis
the reasonableness of its conclusions. Misstating significant facts or
authorities is a mark of carelessness, and it undermines the opinion’s
authority and integrity. Unclear or ambiguous writing reflects the author’s lack of clear thinking and defeats the opinion’s purpose.
...the manual is to stimulate judges to think
as systematically about writing their opinions as they do about deciding their cases. ...
...
Pomposity and humor
Judicial writing can be pompous. The judge must avoid pompous
writing in an opinion, such as arcane or florid language, use of the
imperial “we” (by a single district judge), or expressions of irrelevant
erudition. Although the use of humor is sometimes rationalized as an
antidote to pomposity, it works better in after-dinner speeches than
in judicial opinions. In the latter, it may strike the litigants—who are
not likely to see anything funny in the litigation—as a sign of judicial arrogance and lack of sensitivity. Although some judges seem to
have succeeded in using humor in their opinions, it is a risk not to be
taken lightly. Nor need it be taken at all, for writing can be made lively,
forceful, and interesting by its clarity and logic.
...
https://www.law.upenn.edu/live/files/5466-writing-judicial-opinions
^sum more stuff I was reading re legal writing
Veru @verucassault
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Veru @verucassault
https://www.c-span.org/video/?478267-1/pennsylvania-judge-dismisses-trump-campaign-lawsuit-listen-oral-argument
Interesting. Painfully 3 hours long almost but this is the hearing.
Panda-kun™ @hell_hound7
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Panda-kun™ @hell_hound7
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Aka-san @redhawk
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αlερh-2 @alephy
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αlερh-2 @alephy
*loud burp* entertain me
αlερh-2 @alephy
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αlερh-2 @alephy
You are conflating rude remarks with bias. Those two things are not the same thing. The Judge was a tad rude. But that does not mean bias. It's better to have a rude judge that sticks to facts and logic. Then a nice judge that sticks to claims without proof. Which type of judge do you prefer? @verucassault
αlερh-2 @alephy
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αlερh-2 @alephy
"What i wanna know is if you have signed affidavits with eye witnesses and employes what other evidence do you need? "
You need material evidence. A simple eyewitness testimony is insufficient evidence. Do you not understand what burden of proof is? Do you go on and believe every eye witness testimony Pandus? That sounds completely ridiculous. "Please believe me, I saw it". Is not sufficient evidence to disenfranchise millions of votes. You ask what else do you need? How about the following:
-Actual hundred of thousands of votes that were fake
-Published code for the voting machines that changed vote count
-Emails between democrats stating that they'll steal the election
-How about an excel spreadsheet with carefully calculated math to the steal the election
-There were even conspiratorial claims about communist money coming in. Evidence for this should also be presented. Through bank records and whatnot
"There are countless instances of votes being left out "by accident" and getting lost or double counted due to software issues and no one thinks anythingbis wrong with this? Are we being serious here? "
Yes, there is something wrong with that. Those problems should be fixed. But that does not mean fraud. There's been allegations of votes being manipulated through software. If that is the case. They should present the evidence. Otherwise it's complete conspiratorial nonsense.
"Put aside voter fraud, put aside election integrity....what in the actual hell seems normal about this? Human error has no room to exist. You think the military can afford "human error" dealing with missles or NASA afford "human error" when people are being blasted offf in a rocket? Why is this ok?"
That was a bad analogy Pandus. Counting votes is one thing. Dealings with actual humans lives is another thing. Votes and actual human lives are not in the same domain. Protecting votes is not analogous to protecting lives. The regulations to protect human lives ought to be a lot more stringent then protecting votes. Even within the high stringent regulations within NASA. Human errors still happen. The 1986 Space Shuttle Challenger disaster. Killed all seven crew members onboard. NASA engineers failed to properly check the O-rings, which caused the Space shuttle disaster. That should not happen. It is human error. I am not arguing that human error is good. Human error is bad. But human error is unavoidable. Here's another example. Most automotive crashes are due to human error and not engineering failures within the car. Human error has no room to exist. I agree with that. But humans error happens all the time. Unless your perfect Pandus and never make errors? I doubt that. Human errors are unavoidable. One can try to correct them. But they'll always be there. @hell_hound7
αlερh-2 @alephy
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αlερh-2 @alephy
The Trump campaign knowingly submitted fake affidavits to a judge in Maricopa county. Fake affidavits are not reliable evidence. That is a problem with eye witness testimony. People can lie. If the signed affidavits are falsely claimed. Then what else do you have? Feelings based arguments. Your gut tells you what is true. Rather then rationalizing things through. Reality doesn't care about your gut or your feelings say. @hell_hound7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_get06-tgo
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