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2020 US Presidential Election

hell_hound7
Alephy correct me if im wrong but were the binoculars not because pole watcher had to stand close to 60 feet or something away from the counters? The binoculars things is pretty retarded but they were not allo2ed to be anywhere close to the counters to even see what was going on. Which is why they won that case.
verucassault
@alephy Just dreaming of a perfect third party that doesn't get shoved around by extremists on either side. Doesn't have to do with Trump really, for me.
verucassault
Aleph-α @alephy Found the video. https://www.mediaite.com/election-2020/rudy-giuliani-claims-125000-pa-votes-should-be-invalidated-because-election-observers-were-denied-the-use-of-binoculars/amp/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ Focusing on what the observer said, that's kinda unsettling. -"We're there supposedly observing, but we can't see. ...at least 100 feet away from open ballots that go back out of our site, we can't see them, we don't know what's happening to them. There's no way for us to meaningfully observe the process from where they have us." 125,000 ballots or more.- Guiliani is trying to get votes tossed. OK. Moving on from that though, the vote counting process should be uniform but it's not. A third of the Nation hasn't adopted the Voting Standards set forth by the Federal Election Commission. Why? And why is it voluntary? The standards were created in 2002 following the 2000 Gore v Bush election after Gore contested. https://www.americanbar.org/groups/public_interest/election_law/policy/16a103/ I like the ease of use the machines have in Georgia. You go in and it basically creates your ballot for you, gets printed out. You can double check it. Then you walk over to the machine that counts the ballots and you put it in, front and then back. The poll attendees aren't supposed to look at your ballot or touch it. I just assumed at the time that my ballot went through the machine that it was counted right then and there and went straight to some secure national or at the very least state database. But that's not the case. We are now seeing that the votes are being stored via USB drives which can be removed, replaced, tossed and/or tampered with even, I dare say? This is negligent. We can do better than this.
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hell_hound7
https://cdn1.img.sputniknews.com/img/106855/84/1068558423_0:186:3336:2062_1200x0_80_0_1_d2456c29b3b2f74dd7eb6590da8c1ef9.jpg https://metro.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/comp-1603284335.png
hell_hound7
If your president didnt dance awkwardly at least once in public they dont belong.
alephy
They just lost another case in Pennsylvania. @hell_hound7 https://i.ani.me/0285/9772/court0.5.png https://i.ani.me/0285/9776/court1.png As far as what the observer said. Yes, that is unsettling. But unsettling does not act as evidence of fraud. Voting processes should be made more efficient. But inefficiencies does not make votes ilegal or fraudulent. The Judge makes it quite clear. Claims are nothing without evidence. Here's the relevant part to what the poll watcher said. @verucassault https://i.ani.me/0285/9780/court2.png https://i.ani.me/0285/9784/court3.png I read some more of the recently dismissed case. The Judge basically dunked on Giuliani. https://i.ani.me/0285/9788/court4.png If you don't want to trust the so called liberal left wing media. That's perfectly fine. But the right wing media is just as biased. Under what pretenses can you trust one media outlet. While calling other outlets unreliable. It is a fallacious double standard. You don't even have to take my words for it. If you want to read the full transcript for the case. Here is the case link pdf. Read it and come to you own conclusions. Don't be spoon fed conclusions. Read and think for yourselves. https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.pamd.127057/gov.uscourts.pamd.127057.202.0_1.pdf
verucassault
@alephy 'Kay. https://www.catipilla.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Coronavirus-and-Cats-Science-Roundup-Catipilla-600x400.jpg
hell_hound7
@alephy no one ever linked to poll watchers not being able to see with the case of fraud. Well at least no one here i was stating that the binoculars thing made it very hard to see if votes were being tampered with. I dont believe every media outlet that side with my side. Alot of what tucker Carlson says sounds like bs. I just know CNN and the like sugar coat or straight out spead fallacies. Yes he hasn't won alot of cases but does that mean its completely over? No. This isnt about overturning votes fam XD this is about making sure 2024 is set up for success. Thats why trump is scrambling to make all these changes and stuff. You can use context clues alot of the time they dont believe they have any chance of winning this election, they just have to make sure next election is different because it will possibly be trump vs biden again.
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