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Coronavirus. Your thoughts? [Serious and Non-Serious]

reisenpai66
Sadly the Chinese will get away with it yet again.
hell_hound7
Chinese? This virus didnt come from china, didnt you know? It just started everywhere at once.
arcfire90
The biggest problem with Covid to me isn't just the virus being a thing but I've noticed there's so much stupid BS and misunderstandings about the whole virus that it drives me nuts and this doesn't just apply towards people who go on about how it's nothing worse than the flu or that vaccines don't work or whatever but this also applies towards people who think they're on the side of science by for some reason wanting complete and total lockdowns of absolutely everything and are in total panic mode over anything they can get a chance to freak out over. If you wanna read something similar that has happened in human history that is surprisingly similar to what's going on now though, go read into the Spanish flu. It was an entirely different virus but as far as how the US handled it and botched it, it was *incredibly similar* even with people getting all weirdly political over the virus' very existence to begin with.
hell_hound7
Well it isnt so much a political thing for me. Because Trump in the US touted the distribution of vaccines as he was initially responsible for pushing it to the market, then biden was the one enforcing it. So in a sense that removes any sort of political scenario for me. Im looking at it from a science standpoint. No matter how far technology has advanced science to me will ALWAYS be the same. You cannot change physics, you cannot change biology, you cannot change chemistry. Anything that is possible was always possible we just couldnt do it yet. My issue is when people think we can just drop a vaccine and suddenly a millennia of science becomes null. Nothing has changed. We still need clinical trials there is no fucking way we can just throw something out there after a year and it be, flawless its impossible. https://youtu.be/FGqotHKj_A0
reisenpai66
Id like to think that the trials done for emergency use were at least safe enough to not end humanity in the near future. Sure all drugs have side effects and some shit goes through several iterations before being finally fully approved, but you'd think all that stuff has been accounted for. Currently its either take the vax and pray, or get future varients with higher viral load and increase chances of death.
umi_nezumi
One of the largest concerns when dealing with people is to prevent a panic. They will parrot that it's safe/effective all day every day towards that end. It doesn't matter if it's not. They'll deal with the consequences when it happens. They're concerned with managing a population. That's a very different lens than how people will/should evaluate their own lives.
reisenpai66
The media has done everything but help. All you hear is "chance of clots, heart problems and death!.. b-but trust the experts!" *no credible sources linked* Gee thanks. They dont care though, they are making money at the expensive of public health. They're honestly a threat to public health. Luckily im able to digest some of these medical topics or id probably be on the no vax boat too. Even knowing what i know its still spooky
hell_hound7
@reisenpai66 the emergency use trials are not enough and not extensive. Can you honsetly tell me they have tested the affects it has on people with rare disorders? Or if someone were to develop something later on in life what it would do to them then? Or how the effects this has on the body versus different viruses and vaccines? Or how this affects the body after PROLONGED use. Thats a big one because they are talking booster shots. These are questions im sure other scientists are trying to figure out amongst their peers but they are being shut down. Like dude im not antivax but imma say it, it took 50 years for the first polio vaccine to be introduced to a human why are we pretending one year was enough.
hell_hound7
"But it wasn't until 1945 - nearly three decades later - that the first flu vaccine was licensed for civilian use in the U.S. In contrast, an effective and safe COVID-19 vaccine was developed in less than a year. Historically, vaccines have taken years to make it to distribution" https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://weather.com/health/news/2021-01-21-how-long-did-it-take-to-develop-the-flu-shot&ved=2ahUKEwis5cmntbHyAhXEAZ0JHWHbCfIQFnoECCAQBQ&usg=AOvVaw0I649jIcn2dXtpDrnEUypE
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