can you talk about feminism?

I'm all down for feminism woman that play sports should get paid the same amount as guys I'm down for equal rights whatm not down for is crazy psychotic bitches attacking every single fucking thing like game company's cause they make some of characters a bit sexualized these are fictonal characters that arent based on real people games come to mind senran kagura and valkyire drive cause extreme femminist bitches complained to Sony now the games are just not the same even street fighter I mean the characters in that even that sexualized yet extreme femminist nazi bitches attacked that too like I said I'm down for it I respect woman and stuff but the extreme stuff has to stop

Fewer than one in five women in America describes themselves as a feminist even though over 85% of them believed in equality between the sexes. (the numbers are even worst in the UK) Why ? because they know that feminism has become something different now, it's not what it means to be. It's now a mean, vindictive, spiteful, nasty man-hating philosophy, that has very little to do with Equality. And the way that you know that is women are abandoning it in their millions, they have rejected the third wave feminism completely.

I dont think anyone is confusing anything. If someone calls themselves a "feminist" whether they are extreme or not they should be part of that movement. Its like white supremacists do you not consider them part of the group when they claim it? Im not saying all feminists are bad i just dont see the LESS VOCAL ones getting anything done. I just see the extremists pushing an agenda and its affecting ALOT of things. Be offended, hurt, or annoyed all you want. Cuz the way i see it is without these extremists pushing their agenda the women's rights movement shouldn't gave anything else to fight for. You already have the right to vote, you have the right to work, you have women in the military, running for president, in congress, owning businesses. What else do you need? The power to harvest souls? Dont exclude the extremists who do things that are pro-women, cuz they fight for you guys. Cuz the way i see it without them andtheir extreme ideals you have nothing else you need to fight for.

I think the original movement was alright at what it tried to achieve, nowadays there's a bunch of people mixed in with radical ideas that border on man hating, I'm aware there's different terms to tag them but I don't think they differentiate themselves at all from feminists. A big problem I think, is that the movements are focusing too much on countries where, albeit there may exist disparity between genders, women aren't extremely stomped over, unlike for example, countries under Sharia Law, or heavily religion driven countries specifically Islamic countries, India, China, Japan. Basically countries where women are still seen as nothing more than birth givers and caretakers, I think their objectives should be more focused towards those countries. Maybe they are already trying really hard and it just doesn't reaches headlines, sadly, the only news I've read of insividual attempts are accompanied by news of their bodies being found somewhere on the Islamic country while trying to promote equality and love

I can't talk for others but personally, I despise movements like feminism. It's not that I don't agree with the overt message they are trying to spread. Equality is good(Though only out of merit and opportunity), equality between the sexes is good. However Feminism as a movement spout more lies than nigh any movement that's relevant right now. For examples, the wage gap. It doesn't exist. An earning's gap does only due to the fact that men on average work more dangerous jobs, and are more likely to work overtime and ask for raises. If you take out all the extra context and put two identical options for a man and woman, they will not be paid less. It's literally illegal in the states to pay women less for their gender and has been since the sixties. Or about the lies like western rape culture, which they state that one in four women are raped, which isn't true, as by the FBI stats it's more like 1/1200. They just took a study from a college campus which included Consentual drunk sex as rape in the study. Then they try to push guilty until proven guilty due to that false statistic when it comes to rape. Then you have the nonsense of Manspreading, or Mansplaining(Which in of itself is a sexist concept), Affirmative Action(Hired due to gender instead of merit) and more. The concept of Toxic Masculinity in of itself. I hate movements like feminism because I hate liars. Which the movement is based around spreading false information to try to get an agenda pushed. If anything women in western countries have benefits that men don't have. Just look at what happens to men in abuse cases. Look at what happens to men in the family court cases. I can give you examples of women being favored systemically. I cannot do the same for men. Also there are just so many misandrists that come from feminism it's gone past being a joke. You may use the "No True Scotsman Fallacy" all you like, but the facts remain feminism created ideologies like Political Lesbianism(Where they become lesbians due to the fact that men are terrible and not because of their actual sexuality). In places like the middle east, feminism is needed. Back during the sixties, feminism was needed. It's not now in western countries, and the lies they push piss me off to no end because it hurts those that actually need help, because if they stopped making problems up in our countries, they may actually try to help women in countries who actually need it.

everyone in this thread: i support equality BUT oh mai your all feminists in denial