debate

Teacup VeganGains is a youtuber who advocates for veganism. Tbh I remember when he convinced Andywarski to go vegan for 6 months but then Andywarski was like fuck this I’m not getting any sustainability and the fact that even with supplements and doing what he was told he had energy issues Or the YouTube Blairewhite Quit veganism because her skin was having some sort of issues and getting very veiny

well just because you cant eat certain foods because of allergies doesnt mean that veganism isnt ethically superior, im not sure how these things correlate? i mean im not a nutritionist so i cant really help you there, but just because the diet would be more difficult doesnt make it impossible. being a vegetarian when my family eats meat is extremely difficult, i have to smell it and see it. when my mom makes food she doesnt make a vegetarian option for me, so i have to make myself something, and its usually not as good. i will eat meat on the rare occasion (like when i made stuffed cabbage) but that was like a treat, like ice cream. and i justified it because my mom already bought the ground beef, so i didnt see how this would be supporting the animal agriculture industry um, not an expert here so take this with a grain of salt and tell me that im wrong xD but would veganism not help in the rehabilitation of someone with orthorexia? it lets them be picky with there food in a healthy way, right? so a good way to slowly nurse them out of it? could totally be wrong, and i apologize if i sounded like an idiot for talking out of my knowledge zone, just when i was vegan i felt amazing about myself for being so conscious about my food, a feeling i didnt have with having an average diet i mean, lets put this into perspective an animal has its throat slit and hung upside down so the blood drains out and doesnt taint the meat so you can not feel uncomfortable at restaurants? i mean to begin with doesnt your allergies make going to a restaurant already difficult? and yeah, ill admit, you get weird looks for asking about the menu, but at the end of the day, fuck them i got a nasty look for a barista at starbucks when i asked for soy milk instead, but that is nothing compared to what a cow goes through when having her calf stripped from her countless times xD come on now then ok, where do your ethics lie? what is your ethic baseline?

Idk I think we are all at the end of this debate tbh there will be no middle ground to be reached But I will still advocate that I hate both meat and vegetables and that food as a whole that isn’t Sweets, pastries, cakes, and pies just taste awful to me or mundane to me. Like if there was away why not make full manmade food substitute for literally all the vitamins and nutrients instead of eating icky veggies and meat that kinda just taste the same to me. SOMEONE MAKE AN EVERYTHING CAKE

revision xD id chalk that up to not doing the diet appropriately i felt best when i was vegan, so to be low energy id say they just arent eating enough

@az https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-Vuw-burI0

I mean that is your assumption we can’t know the nuances of youtubers life’s of if they were eating a certain way or not

sure, id need to know more and its absolutely an assumption but that assumption comes from bein vegan myself for 3 months and feeling great and being vegetarian for....2 years? 3 years? and doing alright (not the best xD) energy comes from calories, so (and maybe tea would be the better person to talk on this xD) eat more carbs is my response or lentils, those are high in calorie and protein

Besides in reality shouldn’t fixing the General diet over all come first before turning people to the vegan diet? Not everyone can jum straight into it and your whole argument lies with ethics yet To most ppl they are more concerned with the current political and social climate more then the vegan debate which most ppl just end up watching youtubers for that ontop of their own research to keep up with things but do to the niche of multiple subjects the “Normies” don’t care Not saying it is ethically or not ethically superior but what I am saying is you can only encroach your veganism with those in your reach and yourself It’s why we aren’t getting to a middle ground unless you get your way to have someone say it’s more ethically superior which in the long run means nothing if they’re gonna keep eating meat or if they stop companies and farming will continue to pump out mass food productions sadly even though ppl have tried to go against it and still are. But there is still a demand which turns things into a pipe dream