debate

i need a yes or no, el why is torture not ok but killing is?

kawaii you said i disproved my whole argument by saying humans have more moral agency over animals but when did i say they didnt? how exactly did i disprove my point? thats my point and explaining to you what veganism is is not moving the goalpost moving the goalpost means im adding an extra layer to an argument that wasnt there prior

I like how whenever I try to say exactly what Yestotally just said, I get accused of moving the goalposts. Even when I don't directly involve myself in a debate. This used to be a commonly accepted rule in the art of debating, but now it's moving the goal posts. Anyways, yes. I'm an idiot, especially off my meds due to attention issues, so I apologize.

i think she ment me xD im not really sure anymore your a smart dude choco, i wanna see you debate someone >w> i enjoy seeing your opinion on things brain blast you should be the debates moderator >w>/!!

ill look forward to it ^v^/ gl man

Lol, as I said before its pointless to ask me about ethics for reasons I have repeated. I do not deal in absolutes unless they are natural laws. I'd be wrong if I ever did due to most things being something are a matter of opinion or perspective. You are asking about my opinion correct? Killing doesn't involve too much suffering if done correctly. There you have it

Lamby..... you can understand why I have a hard time understanding or believing you when you say if you want to have a talk about veganism we can when that's sort of low-key what I've been trying to do this entire time and you still don't answer the question. You rather have a debate about why we're not having a debate. I think I might be going over the line with making this comparison but after a certain point if you try to defend something all by yourself too much then you store to start to become an sjw when there was nothing really to defend in the first place. At least not in every single circumstance. I'm very well aware that you are pretty much the only one who defends vegetarianism on this entire website and I have nothing against the lifestyle, it's just not for me but I have nothing against it and I love animals but seriously all I was doing was asking a question and you do have a point about this being a debate thread which I didn't notice that first but also win has anyone ever enforced sticking 2 the point of topics on any thread in this entire website? It's not helpful that I didn't participate in that but at the same time I can hardly be bashed for it when you yourself have rarely stuck to the topics of the thread religiously or anybody else. I did what most people did, they saw a comment, clicked on the chat room and then said something about it without noticing.

oh, yeah totally we can im not sure how knowledgeable you are on it and ill preset by saying im not a nutritionist and can only debate the very basics of the health of the vegan diet, im more on the ethical side of things and maybe a dash of philosophical where are you comfortable with starting, or would you like me to start? i would want this discussion with you to be as easy going as possible, so can you admit your a hypocrite for stating to love animals and then promoting the torture and killing of them? or we could start slow into ethics without jumping into anything deep like that first