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Why women should take risks and responsibility

goldenepitaph
The complaints on length aren’t really for you or tied to what I am discussing if you couldn’t deduce that on your very own. I am not tying into any points I am making about your general post. While I do feel like it reflects the capacity of your intelligence, that’s not really something I care about either. So as I said, feel free to keep getting your feelings hurt about it, and making judgements of your own about it as well. You’re the one who keeps replying to that. Gonna keep doing it. Not sorry. Also didn’t read all of that either. In care you were wondering. Seeing how people have understood and agreed with my comment or aspects of my comment, gonna ignore the rest of the second paragraph as well. Moving along. Oh how nice, you copy and pasted your post. And once again said nothing new…If anything you made it longer and still said nothing new till about the last paragraph. I don’t know why you felt the need to read to me… But I will explain why all that’s incorrect after all: The vast majority of women don't take risks or initiate in activities. At least not the same amount or degree as men do. INCORRECT. ((Women do take risks almost as much as men, and they are shunned for it far more than men are; its practically like social suicide; makes you look like a whore. You wouldnt know that because you wouldnt care about anyone else's feelings. Thanks for not addressing.)) It's sad to see women want equality but take the back seat whenever they can or ignore the problem to there low status when the solution is in their hands. INCORRECT. ((You need to keep in mind that not all women are feminists. For some reason when this movement came out, people labeled half the human race on default. There are the feminists, the extremists and the people like me who couldn’t be bothered. So those people who are still taking the back seat? Obviously not feminists to begin with. Really a common sense kinda thing.)) Sure biology holds them back and there programming makes them less likely to take a risk but it can be overwritten and they need to be held accountable. INCORRECT ((This is still in the big picture; a theory and nothing more. Not a fact. As seen in the following articles. It’s a popular opinion people like to use as an excuse for why they are single.)) https://www.simplypsychology.org/gender-biology.html https://www.recode.net/2017/8/11/16127992/google-engineer-memo-research-science-women-biology-tech-james-damore https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/darwin-damore-how-modern-science-failed-women-ncna801586 https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/efeb/1be09d991770f419c5d021a0b7d742a770d8.pdf I've seen more people break away from the mentally challenged echo chambers of feminism after seeing how it's just a power grab with no responsibility. INCORRECT ((I told you about feminism already.)) Now for the kicker which almost no women take the first step to date. They fear standards and don't want to take the risk. They also seem to fear responsibility if the date or relationship goes sour so their solution is wait for someone to take the wheel of responsibility. INCORRECT. ((Plenty of aggressive women out there, despite what I told you often happens when they do take risks that doesn’t really stop them in this day and age. Actually for the most part I don’t even think it’s a good idea for them to be so impulsive. Sure you get more dates but more often than not, the quality is shit cause you didn’t take time to see who the person even was. Most divorces are filed by women these days. How do you like that for taking responsibility. “ A study reported in the American Law and Economics Review in 2000, "These Boots Are Made for Walking: Why Most Divorce Filers are Women" also showed that more recently, women file more than two-thirds of divorce cases in the US. Even though the individual states’ data vary somewhat and the numbers have fluctuated over time, throughout most of the 19th century about 60 percent of divorce filings were by women. “ “Because of the financial and social hardship faced after divorce, most people assume that generally husbands have instigated divorce since the introduction of no-fault divorce. Yet women file for divorce and are often the instigators of separation, despite a deep attachment to their children and the evidence that many divorces harm children. Furthermore, divorced women in large numbers reveal that they are happier than they were while married. They report relief and certainty that they were right in leaving their marriages.” https://www.unc.edu/courses/2010spring/econ/586/001/Readings/Brinig.pdf - So to what insecure reason shall a feminine archetype hold? ((Honestly where I stopped reading the first time.)) - Why leave it up to one half of a sex to take the lead in expanding the gene pool? So to maybe encourage or discourage others why don't the women tell their story of how they made the first move. But it has to be a real first move, not the stupid I flipped my hair and made a bunch of generic hits. You had to go up and be clear about the proposal of the idea you and the other should be engaging in a temporary courting period. ((No ones going to do that here, this post has already been labeled misogynistic, nice going. And it looks like you are already ready to start telling people “No that doesn’t count”)) So now why should women take the steps to be more active? Well, it will open them up to more relationships. ((Correct! Well the relationships will most likely be of poor quality. But quantity over quality right? As long as they give you a chance.)) This will also become a standard over time and more men and women should find lovers. It would also limit the guessing and the long list of, does that girl like me? IT would make women more outgoing and encourage them to take risks and responsibility for work and in the relationship. INCORRECT. ((That’s just not how that works. Because 1: This is already in the works and still not doing anything. And 2. If anything, according to MO what happens when someone gets into a fucked up relationship or gets rejected to many times? They fucking give up and lose interest. So if women “get more relationships” which fail cause they were so hasty and aggressive…What do you think will happen.)) No, this will not fix every dating problem or issue in mankind but it's a step in the right direction and if women truly want equality they will need to experience and engage more. INCORRECT. ((Its not fixing any dating problems.)) Humans waste too much time waiting and looking for people. For example, I have known a few women that liked me but never said a thing and so missed their chance with me. STUPID. ((If you wanted to date those few women. Few being a generous word there. You also should have said something instead of waiting for her to say something. And if you yourself weren’t really interested in the first place and just “Wouldn’t have said no if she would of asked” then you had no business dating her to begin with cause you didn’t even like her. So it all works out. It would be helpful to have both sex's take part in the filtering and search of compatible mates. ((Already happens.)) Update: It would also be of use to the drones to have a backbone and self-respect to take matters into their own hands and not wait for others like the world owes them or that time is enough. Action, not words get things done and it seems that these types of people are afraid to move. Now to the retards in the audience with insecurities, no this is not meant to be a fix or blanket statement of all "women" as that is not logical. It is a majority of those and based on factual stats that anyone can google. Not sure why I would even need to point that out but it seems even in the smallest of groups where you can find the weakest of minds dribbling about. This is an observation and a digital vocalization of what I see in the modern world take it as what it may be but I am not disgruntled or emotional of the subject. I just see it as an error and a flaw shaped by the poor structure of mankind and their fear of change even if their current path is that of self-destruction they will walk it. To most, it seems to be that of an illusion such as "if it's not broke so don't fix it attitude" but that is stupid. There is no need to fix anything but to improve and to make more efficient. Do we just let phones stay large bricks or did we make them smaller and more powerful? Yes, we did the logical thing and made them better and we will eventually do it with relationships and social behaviors. ((This is pretty much his cop-out in case shit doesn’t go well. “W-Well I said this but I never said that it would actually work!” AKA you pretty much gave permission for me to not even read anything in the first place, you aren’t even trying to stand by what you said. Top of that, again he is only writing all of this based on people he has seen personally in his personal little world instead of using actual research and what not, in other words more permission for me to disregard and not read stuff.))
goldenepitaph
TL;DR His entire first post is incorrect. More than half my post here is just his post from the first page.
goldenepitaph
@Hauptschlüssel I actually didnt have a problem with his initial idea and or him complaining that women dont approach him enough. Its fine to feel that way for sures. Its his "fix" and "evidence" I had an issue with. Along with the overall tone of the message. He keeps referring to women and people as predictable machines. Keeps saying its not about dating, when it clearly is. Barely strays from the dating aspect of this. Now he’s completely retracting his intentions to fix anything, and instead has decided to call it “advice”…. You know that thing you say when you wanna help someone…Or…Help someone FIX a problem. Its his cop out leave him alone. He’s also making all sorts of groundless judgments on everyone. Even the people being nice to him. Calling them insecure, fearful ect . And the only evidence his has is personal experience. So yes. Permission to be harsh? Granted. And even worse he's apparently expecting the few females we have here to dare step onto this toxic thread. Interesting? In a sense yeah, I am interested to see how long this pans out.
kameiya
OK detective cadet. Let's see if I can try the shortened version. *cough* Great for you to want to be chased lolli. Not the problem. Of Course Feel Free To Play AND Give Lengthy Defensive Posts To THIS. I get bored and don't mind playing with closed minded insults. The problem here is you are coming off as secrets and viewing women as a whole to being scared and won't take risks in life. Golden made very accurate points against you. There are some things people in general don't find worth risking in. People. Not just one gender. If you haven't noticed your choice of words insulted some of us even if you might not have meant too. Golden and the others are stating it in the best way they can. On dating I don't take risks anymore with men cuz too many guys turned mean and cold when I made the first approach. That destroyed that part of me. Go on and ramble with pasted text and repeats of your point and meshing us in a while instead of as individuals like we are. This little machine is just going to join in the popcorn. So lolli, are you ready for a repeat play on words? Let's play dear boy.
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burninghalo
I'm with the muffin on this one https://78.media.tumblr.com/43c0db7dd7fe412d9b80d3c423bd48b8/tumblr_n1zg29HfqW1s8l4eao1_500.gif
muffster
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jtibbs
one-man was dangerous in my opinion.
bob_loblaw
Ahh, so the guy that did this to a user's pic and paraded around the site with it as his own ava with "Pussy Magnet" added to his username is telling others they're being "too harsh" towards someone else? http://a.nime.me/0109/5826/5a6516eb-e47d-45ca-a30e-914520352e3c-508-0000006325cb6298.png So it's ok to visually mock and insult someone on a directly personal level for doing nothing but be open about his own perversion, but it's "too harsh" for a few people to express that we don't like the opinions of someone that has made a baseless mockery of the "vast majority of women" and belittles the female that dared call him out on it? Is this really what you're saying? Or do you have an alternate justification for why it's ok for you to mock a user for his views, but others are being "too harsh" for stating the views of someone else makes us groan? edit: Also, just for clarification, the only thing I'm comparing oneman to gagger with is that they both view themselves as having isolated truths that no one else is capable of grasping on their own, so any rebuttal others have is just a springboard for them to reiterate the exact same opinions they've already stated while simultaneously ignoring/belittling contrasting perspectives.
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