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xueli
Dec 26, 15 at 10:27pm
@マックス That's kinda more a culture thing, I think at least, than a religious one. I know some cultures that don't really appreciate eye to eye contact much and that doesn't always stem from a religious thing. Or at least, not a current religious thing. Superstitions and whatnot. I'm an atheist, but I don't really consider myself militant until religion starts impacting on legislation. Other than that, I'm very relaxed about it. My best friend is catholic and we have zero problems with having contrasting religious points of views. I'm upfront about it and I don't shy away from the topic when it comes up but I don't preach it and I don't go around picking random fights about it. It's just so incredibly childish when people do. But freedom of speech and whatnot
elder_reaper
> do you do that to everyone who makes you mad? Only when it matters enough.
sub
Dec 27, 15 at 2:08am
Extreme anything is bad. People should be entitled to their own views on anything. The only issue for me is when it impacts myself or society in which case I would protest / put forward my own views.
crimsonsun2xseries
I agree in part on the matter that a lot of atheists I've encountered are just as dogmatic as the zealot religious types. I think they are entitled to be rude just like anyone else and I am not offended at all by this behavior on either side. I was an atheist at one point in time and to my delight I became very satisfied with everyday life from a stoic point of view. In fact, that was the best time of my life. I choose to believe in God however because I believe I am being called upon to do his will. To each his own at the end of the day.
jinsei
マックス君 I must say that is one thing that annoys me as well, in regards to people who speak their opinion or belief as if it were fact. As a fellow scientist I draw a clear distinction between what I think is the case or what I perceive and what I can measure. When I deal with others, I try as much as I can to be empirical because that is one thing that logical individuals can agree on. Course when you deal with people who chose to forego logic even measurable facts are worthless. Of course I want to warn everyone about the dangers of... EXTREME MODERATION!!! If you're too even handed, you'll never have a reality tv show. People won't want to write biographies about you.
masakan
Isn't that an oxymoron?
rainx
Dec 28, 15 at 9:27am
I'm an atheist who grew up in a catholic home. Fortunately it wasn't as strict as some other people I've read who grew up in some very terrible situations when they started going against what their parents or faith had taught. That being said, extreme atheism is no better than extreme theism. These people who feel "in god we trust" should be removed from currency (yes I know it was put on there in the 1950's), the 10 commandments being removed from public courthouses/government buildings, etc. Shit like that doesn't bother me. I draw the line where it starts potentially infringing on other people's rights. Mandatory prayer in public schools, teaching pseudo-sciences like creationism in public schools, blocking LGBT rights because of a 2000 year old book, etc. Everyone imo is entitled to believe what they want to believe. To each their own. But once you cross the line of trying for force it down other peoples throats like a lot of fundamentalist protestant faith's do, that's where a line has to be drawn and the rights of others have to be defended.
elder_reaper
I don't see it as extreme to ask the government to respect its own constitution and declaration of secularism - as such, removal of ten commandments, of In God We Trust etc. is fair. To put it in perspective, the supreme court of Oklahoma recently ruled that the Church of Satan was allowed to put a statue of Baphomet where someone has commissioned a Ten Commandments monument, same thing when American Atheists built a secular monument. Either you have to respect all religions, or none of them. I think the latter is going to be more palatable than having statues of Baphomet, Buddha, Vishnu, and every other religious figure wherever there's a Ten Commandments monument. Thus, I support extreme atheism as long as it doesn't resort to violence. DDOS is protest, and as long as its not against a government website, not illegal. SWATing is, but its impossible to trace if you cover your tracks. In my case, there were three layers before the VOIP service call, so that its impossible to determine the source of the call without enlisting international cooperation, which in the case I caused, wasn't worth the amount of time and money needed, so as soon as they saw a South Korean IP, they were like "NOPE" For the record, extreme atheists are never proselytizing others. They're instead doing the same thing others have done for thousands of years and criticising others religions when said religion does something asinine or against human rights or common decency. You think I go after Christians specifically? Think again. I go after radical Muslims, and cults like Scientology as well.
xypho
Dec 28, 15 at 2:57pm
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