The Relationship vent thread

@brock or spock whatever you want to be called. You misinterpreted. I didnt say we are wired to be this way, i said circumstances condition young men into being that way. That is something totally different. What you said about what i said implies we are this way naturally, but what i meant to say is that we are not that way naturally but we learn to be that way because of society and culture. As for burden of proof? Well since i just said im not saying people are this way naturally i don't have to prove anything. But if you want proof that what i said even happens at all? You only need to look at the concept of operant conditioning itself and how it relates to social learning theory in Psychology. @oreo (yes i remember your previous name lol) I've got a MS in psychology and any competent person in this field has to be articulate.

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@Rou oh sorry I misread it I will definitely take a look at what you stated as for proof though. I know about the term though operant conditioning. However I really must ask do you feel that there can actually be a solution to this problem its not one of my fortes but this thing is a deep rooted social construct so to speak. If anything a solution would take a very long time to have any noticeable effect. Since you have a ms in psychology I would love to hear what you think could help remedie said problem. Social conditioning or just conditioning in general is definitely a problem that influences many different things that we are dealing with currently so if you are open to a private chat about that later if you are free im more then willing to talk about that. Thank you for the response though.

What can we do to change it? its easy. The problem i described works by the same mechanic as its solution. Simply show/give a person enough stimuli to evoke the opposite or favorable behavior to the problem. What does that entail? we counter the culture that teaches our boys and men to think of everything as objects by teaching them empathy, that everyone has their own will, everyone is a person first and not a role, you cannot control other people's feelings or wants, and most of all that the world is not obligated to provide you things or opportunities simply for existing. A major problem in the culture is that young men are allowed instant gratification all the time. Which molds their subconscious into thinking that they are actually supposed to get what they want all the time and that they are the worlds most important thing. The whole reason why the dating "game" is so complicated or even exists at all is because the behaviors i described before hurt people, and so women and men alike come up with tests and stupid little checks and balances to see if the other person actually cares. We can change this by actively teaching our young men to not objectify people.