debate

Personally I dont mind it It's all about the journey not the destination You could always concede

she is basically Garou at this point..she grows more and more stubborn the more we put her down ^^ everytime she becomes silent she is quietly powering up into her new transformation stage ^^

that doesnt make it moral that you raped them though, that just makes it amoral, aka no moral value. it wasn't right or wrong. I'm asking when is there a net positive, and I have a scenario if your interested in hearing it @koro i know a bit about the industry and the people that 'are fine working with blood and guts" are the sociopaths you see stomping chickens in those viral videos. no normal human is alright working in those conditions, which is why it breeds a culture of these shitty people that enjoy hurting animals and abuse them regularly. doctors put paper over the person theyr helping to make it less obvious theyr working on a human being, but that's an irelivent point anyways because those doctors are fixing people these slaughterhouse workers are murdering. they are forced to torture and murder these animals. it is not the same in the slightest. and I'm not stuborn, I just know this issue and know how to debate it. i wont concede because i haven't been proven wrong. which argument do you believe i have ignored? because from my point of view your giving me arguments and I'm countering them.

@hiretsunaotaku by that I meant the people planning to be surgeons ...there are some who just switch careers after finding that they are not good with blood in their final practical intern years ^^