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megitsune
Apr 12, 18 at 7:05am
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leo_ss
Women have just as much freedom as a man does. They can choose what jobs they want, They can be as chastise or slutty as they desire. You can eat what you want, Do what you want. There is no 'lack of' freedoms placed on you, other than what you place on yourself. And I'm sorry, but women in third world countries like saudi arabia just got the right to drive, I call bullshit in saying that women are like those in third world countries, in the first world. Women in third world countries, are blamed for being raped. Women in third world countries are often castrated before they ever even have sex, legally. Women in third world countries are seen as property. NO woman in America, or Europe has any of those issues. Logic does not oppose emotion, You can feel that 5+5=10 and you'd be right, But emotion can oppose logic, because feeling 5+5=7 would still be wrong, no matter what you felt. You have ALL your freedom, every right a man has, women have. Every law that affects women, affects men. Women are treated seriously, when they deserve it, just like men. Feminism isn't treated seriously, Again, Because all their biggest arguments have been proven wrong. That's why they aren't treated seriously. The wage gap for instance is exactly like a whining child's argument. My seven year old nephew gets 4 dollars for cleaning up his side of the room, But wants six dollars for cleaning up forty percent of the room, because his sister get's six dollars for cleaning up 60%. There is an obvious reason why his sister get's paid more. The earnings gap is the exact same. Again what right, what ability do you women not have as a whole? That men do. I do Listen to women, and I also listen to men, but most of all. I listen to Facts. Fact is, is that women have it just as good, if not better than men do in first world countries anymore. Facts don't lie. A woman, does not deserve the success of a man, if she does not put in the same effort. That's it. Same goes for vice versa. At the police, women aren't ignored. But the police also aren't just going to go randomly arrest someone just for someone else's word either. America works on a Innocent until Proven guilty system for a reason. It takes a lot of courage to stand up for yourself, man or woman. It's just men do it more. Again, You're just stating it. Sure some women are abandoned when they come out about abuse, but that's only some. It is by far not the majority. Because society as a whole does not have a grudge against women. Men LOVE women, and over half the population is women. I doubt they hate themselves. And without Data, you can't prove that point either. Femininity, coming out about your feelings for instance, is wildly praised. And as much as you say Femininity is put down, I haven't seen one man complain about Toxic femininity like Feminists do about Masculinity. I'm not taking them out of context. I'm just stating them. I haven't called you mean once. This is hysterical, because Feminists, MADE The victim mentality. There are two sides to each story, and often there's a WRONG side. Not everything is black and white, but not everything is grey either. You don't have reasons to feel oppressed, you have reason to feel bullied. Being bullied and oppressed are two different things. And they both suck. But they aren't the same. Again, I'm sorry for what happened to you, but that isn't oppression. You are able to do as you please, by law. You don't NEED to prove you're a woman, You either are, or you aren't. That's just biology. Hence the term Tomboy, It's a phrase for boyish girls. But just because they act boyish don't make them boys. You can do as you please, others may disagree with it, But the fact is, you CAN do it, whether what other people think anyways. Which PROVES you aren't oppressed, because if you were, You wouldn't be able to do it at all. Hey, I'm just showing the facts. You can believe what you want. People are allowed to be wrong afterall. But unless you show actual statistics. Prove your points. Than in the end, You're never going to convince anyone. Feminists stopped being necessary decades ago. It's why less than 30 percent of all women actually call themselves feminists. If Feminism were necessary and women were oppressed, the number would be at LEAST in the fifties. probably more like 80. But are you trying to tell me that over 70% of all women on the planet are brainwashed into thinking they aren't oppressed or something? I'm sorry, But if you actually believe that, than I feel sorry for you. As we all do. Which is why I don't just throw my opinion out there, I throw the facts out there. In the end, they are what matter. How about be instead of Feminism you pick a movement who doesn't make up there own problems. That's one. You can be whoever you want. That's the point, at least if you're in america or europe anyway. You'll only be continued to be ignored by the larger amount of the population unless you can prove that this so called oppression exists. Just complaining about something that doesn't, won't get any ones attention.
megitsune
Apr 12, 18 at 8:25am
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leo_ss
America. All of The EU. And Canada. I've already given you two links to prove my points. And If I could make a mockery out of your statement so easily, that shows more about your argument rather than anything. Wow. Okay, So not even the statistics proves it to you. Show me the magical fucking place where women are oppressed, because it certainly isn't the three places I just commented above. Show me, One damn Law that is against women in America. ONE. Show me. Go on. I'll wait. Life may be more than numbers, but these numbers are based on life. If you can't prove your point, If you can't even GET numbers. Than that proves my point, overall, Has more justifiable. EVIDENCE. Again. There's a reason why less than 30% of women are feminists. It's because the only issues they fight for, are the ones they lie about, or made up themselves.
matchesia
Apr 12, 18 at 8:39am
He has already given you evidence for his points you are just choosing to ignore his points
megitsune
Apr 12, 18 at 8:59am
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leo_ss
Mathesia isn't mocking you, He's just agreeing with me. Because unlike you I've proven my points with facts, rather than just accusations. I did not ignore your question. I stated it, America. Canada. And ALL of the EU. How is it women are oppressed when they are succeeding in college more? https://collegepuzzle.stanford.edu/tag/women-exceed-men-in-college-graduation/ Or how about you explain Affirmative action, Something exists in all of the above countries I mentioned. And tell me how that isn't sexist, against white men? I haven't been just claiming things. That's all you've been doing, I've been stating things, and then showing evidence for it. You just then ignore that evidence. You aren't systemically oppressed if you were, you'd be able to mention one law against women, you'd be able to mention ONE Thing against women, that isn't coming out of feminism's ass. America, Canada, Europe, how many times must I say this to you? It's the fact, that you can't bring up a single law, THAT PROVES YOU ARE NOT OPPRESSED. At the least systemically, since that is what that means. Women have bias in court, Proven by the fact that they get lesser sentences for the same crimes, and that's ignoring the child custody where they win over 90% of all trials. I'm not bending numbers, I'm stating them. Those are all FACTS. Just because you don't like them, doesn't stop them from being true. You haven't brought up one thing, that has proven me wrong, one statistic, One point, That proves any of my arguments incorrect. This is the argument of Logic over Feelings. I'm using logic, I'm using Evidence. You are not.
megitsune
Apr 12, 18 at 9:09am
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hell_hound7
I dont get the point in feminism tbh. I get women standing up for equal rights, like the right to vote, join the military, get jobs/equal pay. But in this day and age feminism is honestly dumb :/ women get it way better than men do yet you dont see guys complaining. Its just the spoiled women of society arguing about stuff they can honestly live without. Like complaints about the over sexualization women? Really? Dudes are sexualized too. When you are watching a movie and that one guy takes off his shirt to show all his muscles no one complains right? But a girl shows cleavage and its a problem. When if you think about it...you probably have even seen cartoons where guys take their shirt off and show abs or whatever. Feminism pretty much makes no sense, where a girl can claim a dude raped him and he gets his whole life ruined even if he didnt do it, Or claim that someone beat them up and he goes to jail. But there are men out there being raped and they stay silent or they are being abused by their partner and they keep to them selves. I saw on a show called 16 and pregnant where the girl would pretty much slap and punch the guy in the face amd he would just sit there and take it...nice feminism you have there, because its not like women dont have the power to run for president...its already happened twice, its not like women camt be judges or lawyers or own successful businesses or be MMA fighters or walk around wearing anything they want. Next thing you know someone will start a petition to remove men off planet earth XD
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