Political rants

@hell_hound7 so whats your prescriptive claim? like condensed, so you think the virus isn't a big deal, or that pfizer is somehow stopping people from making other vaccinations? i don't really understand

There is more to this vaccine than just vaccination. There might be a political agendy tied to this pandemic. Whether that be there is something more to the vaccine itself than just protecting against covid, it is either being used as a way to make people richer, or the people trying to contain this pandemic have absolutely no clue how and are fear mongering their way into compliance.

@momoichi i dont wanna seem like im defending the guy because honestly i have no opinion on him whatsoever besides another Trump coattail rider. But to harass him and call him a pedophile if he hasnt been otherwise deemed so by the court is a little excessive. We have alot of Democrats who are pedos and they dont get this treatment.

@hell_hound7 thats their freedom of speech and they're in a public space. he can just hire security if its getting too much. i believe the accusations against matt gaetz. his friend was charged with human trafficking, and where there's smoke there's usually fire there aren't 'a lot of democrats who are pedophiles' and in cases like with Anthony weiner, they are absolutely called out, mocked, and he was charged with his disgusting crime. the only one i can think of that didn't get nearly enough (none at all really) hate for being a fucking rapist was bill Clinton. he got hate for 'being a horn dog' but not for raping poor monica lewinsky. at least he was called out somewhat for the epstein shit, but never about what he did to that poor young woman. "There is more to this vaccine than just vaccination. There might be a political agendy tied to this pandemic. Whether that be there is something more to the vaccine itself than just protecting against covid, it is either being used as a way to make people richer, or the people trying to contain this pandemic have absolutely no clue how and are fear mongering their way into compliance." that's too ambiguous. there's a political agenda behind a lot of things, that doesnt necessarily make something nefarious. just strategic. the vast majority of politics isn't about altruism, its about being reelected and keeping your job. pfizer is a company, so ofcourse theyr going to patten their discovery for profits. your gripe is with the system that allows this, not with them specifically. expand on the 'fearmonger'? personally iv only heard them say basic shit, like wear a mask and get vaccinated. this delta bullshit is all thanks to redneck dipshits that refused and, like the scientists predicted, it mutated, so people like me will likely have to get a second dose. its literally what the scientists said would happen, and it did. I'm not getting how anything regarding this pandemic was fearmonger or misleading. the ONLY time that technically happened was when feuci said not to use masks, and that was because it was a novel virus and they believed the people that mainly needed them would be medical workers, so he didn't want people to hoard them like they did with fucking toilet paper. that was it, and it was a small thing that he later recanted and has ever since been talking about how much masks are needed. you people gotta keep in mind this is a novel virus and scientists were still figuring out exactly what was happening with it.

They are definitely pushing propaganda tactics. I think I'll survive without a tin foil hat though. Like most things I'm sure money is involved in some way. Just to spitball some thoughts... * officials don't want to look like they wasted spending * officials want to look like they have high influence * vaccine companies have an invested interest in establishing a positive view of the mRNA and adenovirus techniques. " They claim it was 10 years in the making but no it wasnt." I believe they are referring to the research for mRNA. Which it sort of was. I was never able to find a vaccine study for it going that far back, but it was researched for other purposes extensively. The technology was being proved out (successfully) for vaccines about a year before the pandemic. Specifically, the delivery mechanism was a concern. *tin foil hat on* They basically got a golden ticket to tests their new tech on the entire population just as it was ready. To top it all off, the red tape was greatly reduced, they got a liability waiver, and a ton of cash to boot. Now _that_ is eerie.

this discussion is over my head now ;w; i don't know any of the details with the vaccines or any conspiracies with them to that effect. i will say, though "They basically got a golden ticket to tests their new tech on the entire population just as it was ready. To top it all off, the red tape was greatly reduced, they got a liability waiver, and a ton of cash to boot. " i still don't think that's any cause for concern, because at the end of the day they would still be responsible for any adverse side effects and weren't all of the vaccines third party approved?

First, I'm no lawyer. As part of the deal to produce the vaccines the companies were waived of the risk to be held liable for certain thing. I believe adverse effects are part of that. They could likely still be held accountable for gross negligence. Again I'm not a lawyer. It's worth noting; however, that there is funding and help offered through the government should you experience side effects. If you got the vaccine you should have been provided with an information packet about those options.

ill take your word for it, but id say that had to be because the third party (fda or whoever) said that there either weren't any risks, or that the benefits outweighed the risks (like the johnson and johnson stroke issue) it would also be a massive issue for these bioresearch companies if their vaccine ended up hurting a bunch of people, so again i don't think that the government being somewhat lenient with there regulations in this specific instance would imply anything nefarious.

For details on their liability immunity see page 33&34 of this: https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R46399 the document outlines a lot of other details, but this is the sentence you are looking for: "The “sole exception” to immunity is when a covered person proximately causes death or serious physical injury to another person through willful misconduct." "it would also be a massive issue for these bioresearch companies if their vaccine ended up hurting a bunch of people" Why? It wouldn't be the first time a product/practices have been an issue: * J&J - https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/johnson-johnson-pay-more-22-billion-resolve-criminal-and-civil-investigations * Pfizer - https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-largest-health-care-fraud-settlement-its-history I couldn't find anything for moderna, but they're only about a decade old ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

sure, but i dont see how any of this could plausibly cause a conspiracy to arise conspiracies arent just crazy people being crazy (one could assume a conspiracy about the government purposefully making conspiracy theorists look crazy as a means to silence actual evidence of real cover ups >w>) many, many, many conspiracy theories have turned out to be true, but the issue in this case is that the companies would have more to lose than gain by taking advantage of this loose red tape. companies pander to stock holders much more than they would their own morbid curiosity. they arent the cia, after all.