2020 US Presidential Election

@dyadka_yar what is this whataboutism? will you also give the great economy credit to biden just because he served under obama? I'm not asking for back then, we don't know how much of a hand biden had back then, I'm talking right now. while trump is actively asking for rando supporters to act as poll watchers biden has been silent on this, so don't pivot to 'oh but biden and obama back in 2008" just condem it if you think its wrong, or support it if you think its right. i was being very specific in the context, but yeah i contest that voter fraud nationally isn't a big deal either, in the context that it will have no significant affect on the election and therefore is of no worry a small amount of voter fraud happens every election, and it never has swung anything (minus maybe the bush Florida thing, but that's conspiracy) if it is an issue please link me an article so i can read up on your evidence, because iv research this myself and it is not a real issue, its just being used to fear monger and undermine the election that trump is actually working to fix where is the proof they were targeting black voters? the supreme courts own quote. did you actually read the article i sent you? to refresh your memory; "WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Monday refused to revive a restrictive North Carolina voting law that a federal appeals court had struck down as an unconstitutional effort to “target African-Americans with almost surgical precision.”" and it wasn't just the needing of id's, they also closed down polling stations and limited hours in CERTAIN counties.... "North Carolina was one of the states most affected by these closures. There were 158 fewer early polling places in 40 counties with large black communities, and African American voter participation was down 16 percent.23 One study conducted by The Atlantic found that in counties with polling place closures and reductions in voting hours, black voter turnout during the first week of early voting reached only 60 percent of the cumulative turnout at the same point in 2012.24 And while black voter turnout increased in the weeks leading up to the election, turnout never reached beyond 90 percent of the cumulative turnout at the same time in 2012. White voter turnout, on the other hand, surpassed white turnout in the affected counties at the same time in 2012." the actually effect of fewer black voters combined with the supreme court THEMSEVLES stating it disproportionally effected blacks shows a CLEAR agenda in this law and why it was struck down

the only way you can justify it is to show me that blacks are at a higher inclination to commit voter fraud and therefore have to be regulated more severely than other ethnicities, which i would bet money on you cant

I apologize Lamby, but I engaged you in good faith as well. You asked me to explain earlier, then rather rudely ignored my response. Then asked me too explain the exact same thing again. You flat out admitted Trump retracted his comments, but were still acting like he hadn’t. Yes trump said something stupid. Trump always says something stupid. Doesn’t mean the relief bill should have been passed. Your comment that he was holding it hostage was flat out false. Trump said he would sign a relief bill 4 hours later. Which proves he wasn’t holding it hostage, and you were well aware of that. I wasn’t going to re-explain after you ignored my explanation twice. 17 democrats also voted against the bill. They couldn’t even get their own party to agree to it. But you flat out ignored that and continued with orange man bad. Yes Lamby, the orange man is bad. But there are people who are worse. And when people talk about up ending the very rules our nation was founded on, that’s worse. And I did leave you a link to a source earlier. Again, I apologize for my rude response to you earlier. But it wasn’t entirely unwarranted. I do think highly of you Lamby. You are a precious and invaluable member of the maiotaku community, and I have nothing but love for you. I apologize if I was mean. And I didn’t mean to gang up on you. I just thought it was a question that needed to be asked again because it was extremely relevant.

you were responsing to me saying hes holding the stimulus hostage by pivoting to the dems having a bad package that is irrelivent to what i said, so i disregarded it.... you are the one postulating that it was "rude" and "ignored" when it was not. this is already an indicator of a bad faith argument by assuming these things my statement was that he has told them to stop negotiating until the election as a form of blackmail, while you were discussing why the proposed bill was bad in general when i pushed you to stay on topic you called me ignorant and bailed. as someone who will argue to the bitter end on an issue I'm passionate about, i find this kind of behavior extremely cowardly to insult someones intelligence and stop responding. I'm not so much annoyed that you insulted me, i have insulted people in the past during discussions as well, but it was that you just left the conversation on that note. its a pet peeve of mine when people leave discussions without a proper closure, it feels cowardly that they cant at least come back with a proper rebuttle before they leave an argument they feel is fruitless. I'm also pretty sure you edited that link in before i responded asking for the link, but if i misread and missed it i apologize, but to assume i was ignoring it is bad faith, during a discussion you have to give someone the benefit of the doubt for this to work, or you end up insulting someone as you did for something baseless we can continue our discussion if you like, but it will not be on if the bill was good or not, but instead whether he is holding the stimulus hostage or not. also I'm glad you like me, but i haven't really talked much to you so i cant say how i feel. i hope this doesn't come off as being bitter or anything xD i just don't like to throw around compliments as i feel like it makes them lose their value. i wouldn't mind getting to know you or have good faith arguments, however. and i do hope you have a good day/night/afternoon

based ben and jerrys https://i.imgur.com/k3gihVK.png

@momoichi i get how heady ben and jerry's is, but like, sometimes it feels a BIT late-stage capitalist dystopian to see shit like that haha. like ooooooooof we need people preaching it but like, not people making money off of it. why is everything so difficult haha

kek i know what you mean, like when people like elon musk come out as anti capitalist just a grift, like 'how do you do my fellow socialists' but i think the above is based because it arguably isn't really the capitalism that ben and jerry benefit from that also bolster the bloated police force a point could be made however that theyr pandering to the larger demographic by posting something like that, which i would have to agree with being a large possibility

yeah that's that pragmatic vibe. even if they do benefit the damage they're doing to the oppressor is probably financially greater, straight up. check that off as "acceptable" in my little existentialist struggle diary

No I CANT breathe after laughing so hard lol https://youtu.be/KLenYCe6vcA