debate

Every individual has their distinctly unique perspective and will see things differently from everyone else, even if their opinions are grounded in the exact same facts, everything is subjective, as it should, to be human.

@berhit, its a bit of a hard question the meat could be compromised health wise, and it also depends how you get the meat eating roadkill? knock yourself out raising cows to then die naturally? well that is a very tricky question that iv covered here before it has been argued by some vegans that farming cattle in general is exploitation and there is a good argument behind it they dont know that they will be eaten upon death, so why does it matter? well i can use this argument against you a woman whos raped while unconscious doesnt know shes been raped, so why does it matter? the answer is exploitation

expanding on the exploitation remark further why does exploitation even matter anyways? why DOES it matter if a woman's been raped while shes unconscious? she isnt mentally or physically harmed and the man gets to feel pleasure so why IS it wrong? because of the golden rule do onto others as youd have done onto you empathy would you be ok with being raped? even if youd never no? no ofcourse not so youd extend that courtesy to others as well this is why empathy is the foundation is morality and ethics

actually, vegan gains i LOVE his debates and thats where i base most of my arguments on hes also where i get my nutritional info from, but problem is i cant understand the macro micro stuff so i can only use the most basic vegan healthy knowledge like how you will be healthier on a vegan diet both carnists and vegans have to take supplements as to not be deficient in everything both groups need fortified foods you can be vegan and be a strongman take Patrik Baboumian he has world records under his belt and has been vegan during all of those http://inspiringthealtruisticmoment.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/00-ILWH-077h-german-strong-man-with-Big-Count-flyer.jpg or just look at vegan gainz himself https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/566426756626644992/55oaSITr.jpeg the only issue i have with vegan gains is he supports freelee the banana girl, and that chick is straight TOXIC