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momoichi
Lamby @momoichi commented on debate
Sep 26, 21 at 10:22pm
@hell_hound7 tell me this, did you read this entire article you just linked me, panda?
hell_hound7
Sep 26, 21 at 10:23pm
@momoichi this means nothing. You thinkbits saying it prevented covid hospitalization. But its simply saying it saw less of a hospitalization for covid in those groups. That doesnt mean they contracted covid and didnt go to the hospital. They specifically say PREVENTED meaning they didnt get it. But you cannot predict it was due to vaccination. Other factors are at play. Has no one ever sat in a science class?
hell_hound7
Sep 26, 21 at 10:24pm
Yes lamby i did, he got vaccinated and died because of an "unvaccinated" which is so braindead its unbelievable. He got vaccinated for a reason and that reason didnt save him.
momoichi
Lamby @momoichi commented on debate
Sep 26, 21 at 10:27pm
@hell_hound7 so, idk if you read it or not, but in this article they blamed the unvaccinated people around him lemme see if i understand your argument the covid vaccines dont work because a single old man in florida died after being vaccinated THANKS TO THE FACT THAT HE WAS AROUND UNVACCINATED PEOPLE (the caps arent yelling, its highlighting the absurdity) so, on my corner of the ring is the cdc themselves saying that pfizer is 94% effective against hospitalizations on your end of the ring, is a single high risk old man in florida that died because people around him werent vaxxed or do you have more evidence that the vaccine doesnt work, something other then one off cases of people dying thanks to the unvaxxed morons around them?
hell_hound7
Sep 26, 21 at 10:33pm
Omg you guys are so blind to the word play these people feed you its unbelievable. If pre-vaccine the numbers are this. And post vaccine the numbers is this. They are trying to say the vaccine contributes to the decrease. Nevermind the deaths that already occured pre-vaccine in high risk individuals which subtract from the numbers that would contribute to covid hospital. Nevermind the lockdowns and mandates being put in place alongside that, nevermind the fact people are being fearmongered into it where they now harass parents of babies 2 years oldfor not wearing masks on a plane. But the keyword is prevent because the best way to determine something works is for someone to not even get it. It lessens the symptoms of covid. Which would lead to death in high risk people right? Someone being unvaccinated means nothing because you are vaccinated. This gentleman was vaccinated and died. That may be one case but i could pull up another and another. See the issue here? Its not that it prevented it but the literal word puzzle they give you guys and you think its ok because it said this.
momoichi
Lamby @momoichi commented on debate
Sep 26, 21 at 10:36pm
a single high risk man died that was vaccined. he slipped through the 6% protection because of selfish piece of shit around him wouldnt help protect him and get vaccinated as well. thats my take away from that article. idk why you have to throw the baby out with the bath water on this issue. to the point of the matter; can you tell me how 94% protection is equivalent to 0% protection?
hell_hound7
Sep 26, 21 at 10:37pm
Im done here, you are arguing Symantecs. Because its one lone guy it doesnt matter. Because he got infected by someone who wasnt vaccinated even though the CDC said you can still spread covid while vaccinated. Its whatever they can literal hit you upside the head with a frying pan and say it was the wind and you would believe it.
momoichi
Lamby @momoichi commented on debate
Sep 26, 21 at 10:38pm
regarding the seatbelt issue, here is evidence that seatbelts also arent 100% effective According to the NHTSA, approximately 3 million injuries and 40 thousand fatalities are reported each year from seat belts that fail to perform as expected during motor vehicle collisions. During rollover accidents, failed seatbelts are one of the leading causes of serious injury or death. https://www.unionlawfirm.com/blog/2019/11/08/seat-belt-failure-how-does-it-happen/ do you not believe in using seatbelts anymore?
momoichi
Lamby @momoichi commented on debate
Sep 26, 21 at 10:39pm
lmao, sure. idk whats semantical about 94% not equally 0%, but keep pushing your fake news while crying about how bad the media is for it
hell_hound7
Sep 26, 21 at 10:41pm
How am i pushing fake news? I literally took what you said and threw it back at you. You told me it lessens the symptoms and im telling you where is the control group. You post CDC article and i mention how it says PREVENTS so circleback to your answer that it lessens symptoms how do you knwo if they never got it? Where is the control group. Come on now people im operating with florida education and even i know more common sense than this. Actual science terms.
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