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      Lamby @momoichi
        
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    Lamby @momoichi
    why is beating the dog wrong? if taste pleasure is the crux of your point, then certainly adding to the taste would be no issue
ill answer your other points now
1. how do humans understand suffering outside of instincts? and because humans and animals are sentient
2. why is it disturbing? meat is meat, no?
3. how are we nature?
4. it depends, but we're going with the assumption the suffering is what makes it so yum yum for my timmy tum tum
  
      Lamby @momoichi
        
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    Lamby @momoichi
    fyi, you see how im asking questions and not just saying "you eat animal meat so you must wanna eat human"?
thats how debates work
you could do the same to me and it would not be strawmaning as im simply asking you a question to test your morals
its really very very simple, and if you cant understand it your in the wrong thread
  
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    Cero @cero
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      Lamby @momoichi
        
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    Lamby @momoichi
    @cero
https://media1.tenor.com/images/e978e8aa67d99b6c289093cc3bf5a07a/tenor.gif?itemid=5334353
i already said i wouldnt debate unless its a proper debate
i could argue with what you said by simply saying human agency comes first
if i had to save the life of a human to shoot a dog, id have to shoot the dog
see? morally consistent 
now
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shoo
  
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      Lamby @momoichi
        
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    Lamby @momoichi
    i point you to the above statement
humans have priority over animals
done
  
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      Lamby @momoichi
        
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    Lamby @momoichi
    my dude there are witnesses here
my brain is slow af so i like to take my time to gather my thoughts
my argument is sound in writing so why does voice matter?
but thats kool, i dont really wanna debate either
  
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    Elsène Elohan @tangentpulse
    1. Humans have a much higher ability to reason and understand complex structures. They can think deeply about what things mean and precieve consequences to a greater extent
2. Its disturbing for any number of reasons.  Mostly because its extremely repeatable. You bite into the flesh, and it feels like you are biting into yourself
3. We exist and are made up of the same carbon that makes up the universe
  
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    Lamby @momoichi
    1. so retarded people who cant think about greater existence are fair game for food? or to torture for fun?
2. but lets say the person is a sociopath, whats wrong with eating it? or eating a child with anencephaly?  
3. that makes no sense xD so then buildings and my ipad is nature? if your appealing to nature then why cant i just kill and eat you?
also, you didnt get back to me on the dog question or if torturing an animal in general is ok if it makes the meat tastier
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