debate

1. ok, so if the aliens were like us in every way minus dna, they were kool, didnt wanna hurt anything, but they were tasty AF, youd be down with holocausting them? 2. cannibalism is only negative if you eat the brain, so flesh is all groovy, you still for munchin on some handicap folks? and so you contest they should have moral consideration? 3. so your saying that slavery was ok? that they didnt do anything wrong back then? 4. so which suffering is worse, the suffering of a human who wants to taste pork, or the suffering of the pig whos going to be beaten and then have its neck slit open? 5. i was gonna watch that video, but its 24 minutes, give me the rundown of it please. does it tackle the fact that according to your logic, it's alright to kill and eat people with low iq's? riddle me this, if a man went to china during the dog festival and really liked the taste of dog, is it morally permissible for him to adopt a dog from the pound, let it sit in the crate for a few days to tenderize the meat, beat it up a little for the fun of it, then slit its throat to bleed it before popping that bad boy on the grill?

how am i strawmaning people? i apologize if i am, but these talking points come from points of the debate telling me i want animals to be above humans or that animals are equal to humans is a strawman, but how have i strawmanned anyone?

here are some little tidbits just now "so killing and eating retarded people or people in vegetated states?" "3. so slavery was justified because the general consensus was its alright?" so are you trying to argue that people who like to eat meat also support these things? because lol

those arent strawmans, those are me trying to poke holes to show some kind of moral inconsistency notice they were all questions if a=b and b=c then a=c kinda shtick

1. If they were tasty, I could see why they would be targeted, but due to their intellegence, their death would be a great loss and possibly wrong due to them having to suffer. 2.You have a high chance of dying from eating human meat due to dormant contamination in human flesh. Even if this wasn't so, why eat humans when there are animals that probably taste better? And if human did some how taste better, you'd have to get over the disturbing fact that you are eating a fellow human, which would be more of a philosophical conundrum and more easily relatable empathicly due to the fact that you are both humans. 3. My idea of right and wrong is different from yours. I believe in survival of the fit. I believe in natural laws. I entertain or simply consider peoples ideas of right and wrong, including my own. When you scream into the vastness of the universe, your feelings mean nothing. 4. Animals should not be beaten before they are killed for food. I find that unnecessary. 5. Its packed with so much information I can't really do it justice without going on a rant, but basicly, when the population of mice in a area exceeds a certain amount, the mice will begin to experience a behavioural sink and begin to canabilism, mutilate, become homosexual, abandon offspring and all sorts of crazy shit. Its seen as a possible fate for humanity after high levels of over population.

neither of those things have absolutely nothing to do with the ethics of being vegan or not though so yes they are. they are completely different issues and youre trying to smear peoples credibility based on those answers. god forbid some vegan slavetraders showed up

Thats what Vegans are all about though Kawaii. They take the moral high ground on anything and everything , except forcing people into a lifestyle that they don't want to live. They can't understand why everyone doesn't feel the way they feel about animals. Could you imagine if any and all groups were as tenacious as the vegans?

oh my ok you need to think about this rationally for a second if high intelligence is the reason why he would say something is worth moral consideration, then where does that leave people with low iq that are human? do you see what im trying to get at?

wow nice strawman my dude you sure proved me wrong through pure logic and mental prowess however will i recover my dignity now!? oof im craving bacon as we speak oh no!!

I get it. But how low are we talking? Her point is still valid because I never suggested we should eat humans. Although that could just be considered a question on how I feel about it. Regardless, you have implied that eating humans and animals is the same thing. Is it?