Shots fired at High School in Florida, numerous fatalities.

If someone wants to kill people they will find a way.... that simple. FBI was warned twice of the shooters suspicious motives and activities. The shooter seemed to target certain areas of the school. There has been no big change in the past years (that I am aware of) of big gun law that has brought on these kinds of shootings. The best way to protect people from this kind of attacks is to have better investigations into reports and provide systems in place that will prepare to handle such actions in the future. But as I said in the beginning, they will find a way, so all we can do is find them before it happens.

Link doesn't work Dagger, not sure if others get anywhere. http://www.journal-news.com/news/crime--law/ross-high-school-student-stay-incarcerated-for-alleged-social-media-threat/ZEVCnS4Nr9THqiPBg1JOKO/

Its a private seller who builds them??? I just asked him a little bit ago when I was over at his house putting in my new car speakers. Apparently the guns have already been sold, but he found another seller. I honestly don't know why he thinks he needs them when he has several hand guns and some shot guns of various makes and models.

I saw in the news that some students are boycotting school until congress passes gun laws. It's sad how blind people can be to the real issues. Yes, the guns are an issue. But it's so easy to pick one thing to point the blame on at, instead of taking real responsibility for what happened and address the real problem. Every time someone kills with something other than a gun, people blame the person and their reasoning. But the second a gun is involved, that takes everybody's full focus. It's the guns fault. The gun is the reason people died. We have to get rid of the guns. People are the real issue here. What drove this person to do something like this? Why didn't anyone who noticed something was wrong do anything? Why do people look the other way? Why are people so concerned with being politically correct, that they lose site of what's actually the right plausible coarse of action? People want to blame something. But they don't want to take the blame for their own stupidity and inaction. It's easier for them just to blame guns. Guns they can direct their frustrations at without taking any of the real responsibility for themselves. Guns don't kill people. People kill people. And it's people that inflict the abuse that drives people to kill people. And it's people that are responsible for teaching people right from wrong. And it's people that are supposed to be teaching people morality, and discipline, and that actions have consequences. Yet people have shirked their responsibilities to these things. They've turned a blind eye because they don't want to address and deal with the real problem. There are guns laws. But people drop the ball in enforcing them. More gun laws aren't going to fix it. People won't follow them. Hell, murdering people is against the law. That hasn't stopped it. Because morality isn't popular anymore, and being lawless is. Why does this keep happening? People still aren't addressing the real problem. People are the problem. The direction society has taken is the problem. Figuratively speaking, people have killed God and driven him out of society. I myself am not a very religious person. But I think people and society as a whole need religion. We need a foundation for our morality. And that foundation is gone. Kids today learn to hate the police through music and other media... Police that are there to protect us... That put their lives on the line for us. Instead of just cooperating with police so they can do their jobs and get the situation resolved quickly and painlessly. They think it's cool to resist. They think it's cool to be lawless, and then wonder why they get profiled, or excessive force gets used. Kids bully and are vicious to each other, and then blame guns or anything and anyone else when that karma comes back on them. People need to take responsibility for their actions and their lives. They need to open their eyes and stop looking elsewhere for blame. It's not just gun laws that need reform. It's the direction society as a whole is going. Society needs to stop throwing responsibility and morality out the window because they are inconvenient.

You take away the guns and people just choose the next most effective method of hurting/killing. You can just look at other countries with no guns. They have mass stabbings instead. Hell we still have mass stabbings even with guns.

When the argument turns to whether or not guns are the problem... the focus of the topic is still on guns... weapons don't use themselves... The focus of the topic should be people. Arguing about guns is just a distraction from the real issue. All the time people spend arguing about whether or not guns are the issues and what gun laws should or shouldn't be put in place... It's all time spent ignoring the real problem and the real issue... And the further people will get from ever addressing the real issues until the real issues are totally out of sight. It's a fact that guns are an issue... But they aren't the biggest issue. They are just the easiest thing to blame. And people want an easy target for their frustration. Nobody wants to take blame and responsibility for themselves. They don't want to admit their own life style is the problem. They don't want to have to do anything to change themselves. They want it to be someone else's problem. They want it to be congress's problem. They don't want it to be their problem.

That's a little bit idealistic. People who are advocating for the truth, real research and real solutions, can't simply walk away from the gun debate. If they did so, then people on the other side of the argument would appeal to everyone and you'd leave them uneducated, and they would pass legislation irrespective of reality, bringing further problems one step closer. It's a bit like asking people not to defend themselves, because they're contributing to the violence. Violence is wrong, and self defense is even more violence, but it's still a necessary counter force.

I don't think my post was particularly for one side or another. I mean, if it came out that way, I didn't mean it to. I was just stating that yes, there is the Dickey's amendment that does discourage study that treat gun violence ad a public health issue. There are not enough studies done into gun violence when it kills as many people as sepsis does but only accounts for 4% of publications. Even the current administration is now trying to encourage more research into gun violence in the US so that we can treat it like a public health issues just like the Obama administration tried to do as well. Also I think it's very hard to actually have bias in a study if you know what to look for. Stuff like journal impact, statistical power, other stuff that Journal Club has now ingrained into me. Lol, I hate journal club, any healthcare provider can tell you it's the woooorst