Who Is "Ruining" America?

I ask you to change your opinion based on evidence that alters your perspective. Before today you did not know that millions of men are raped or that it isnt even treated as rape under the law. Now you do, i legitimately feel bad if that has not changed your mind one bit. Here is me saying it now. Women have it bad. Bad things happen to women. That's fucked up. I have repeatedly said so and that i feel genuine hatred for men who do harm Women but here is me saying it clearly. Having said that, I also have sympathy for men and an equal disdain for women who harm them. Is that so unreasonable?

no because i feel the same i see that everyone has problems, iv named several of mens problems in this fucking thread, yet im being used as the strawman feminist who hates men

Men =/= Women Physically or Socially its just built that way, I mean equality is a dream that will never happen. Pessimistic point of view, but I mean its just true.

And are you saying that no matter what I prove to you or what you come by in your life that you will always see women as better just because? Even after learning that many of your assumptions about men and women were incorrect. You still see women as superior?

yes i do, i am sorry but personal experience and really history shows me men are generally crueler and colder than women socially i push that aside and think everyone should be equal

"*pinches temple* men are at fault who do you think is the problem in work place discrimination? the women??" ^^No possible way this could be reasonably seen as "workplace discrimination is a man to woman issue" vibe or implication here "the problem is when i say that men thing its a personal attack because of the generalization" ^^When you say "men" without "some" or other quantity that is less than "all" there is an implied "all" (if you just say men - there is a reasonable implication of "all") therefore it IS an attack (of sorts) on any man Yasshat didn't vilify you he just pointed out your hypocrisy and you don't like it (you claim to hate generalizations but use a decent amount of generalizations yourself) "when do women discriminate in the work place o.O? men discriminate all the time in the scientific fields, even going as far as to take credit for womens break throughs, TO THIS DAY" ^^You say the above as if it is impossible for women to do the same thing to a man - your focus on these types of issues is one way (men against woman showing no noticeable sign that you acknowledge the reverse can be even theoretically true) "and the women? what did she do to get discrimninated" ^^another example where if there is workplace discrimination the offender must be male and the victim must be female (also no credence to the idea that women can discriminate against men) I'm not trolling there's just a mix of direct remarks toward you personally, and general ones of your noted views (essentially pointing out flaws in feminism in general) / stances in general. Yeah this post is pretty much aimed right at you though. While you never specifically said you demonized men you by your stances do so by estoppel in my opinion (essentially a legal principle for "walks like a duck, quacks like a duck - we're going to call it a duck") in line with the stereotypical modern feminist

Lamby, There's no reasoning with you and I've seen that in this thread alone, for quite a few pages. I've added in my two cents and it still turns into "men are at fault". I've called you out on hypocrisy, as have others. At this point, this thread is just going in circles, lots of circles. But, I'll say as I please, just as you have, value or not.