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Ugh I fucking hate Christianity

xiao_hu
I'm a guy. And I'm not ironic. Because unlike a lot of Christians I actually help the poor, don't try to take away others religious rights and don't proselytize others into believing what I do. I just am campaigning against Christianity based on its own books being full of immoral passages. I've worked for a secular soup kitchen before, giving out free meals to all homeless without any strings attached. No sermons, no bibles, nothing. Just a smile and a hot meal. Christians are not on their own more likely to contribute to charity, I'd point out the millions of charities that are in fact entirely secular. Meanwhile you get the right-wing authoritarians of this country trying to, for example, allow churches to endorse candidates and stay non-profit, http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2016/02/27/donald-trump-as-president-ill-reverse-the-law-that-prevents-churches-from-endorsing-candidates/ And break down further barriers in this nation and others that separate religion from the state. Fuck anyone who thinks thats acceptable. Because if you think its okay to try to make a country exclusively for Christians, I'm going to punch you in the face. Repeatedly. Over and over because you're a fool. Thomas Jefferson didn't break his back writing the Declaration of Independence so you could try to fuck over other religions in this country.
polocrossebob
Rather grand assumptions about somone who you know nothing about. I am not here to argue the merit of my religion or the religion of anyone else on the internet. Merely pointing out something I find ironic. Take it or leave it.
kjdreamer2
This country was based off Christian beliefs. Most of the people who sailed here were Christians. Most of the people who fought for the Independence were Christian. You can believe all you want. But there is nothing wrong with Christianity. And Christians do help the poor. No reason to hate the religion. But not everyone is a good Christian. Not everyone is a good Atheist. Not everyone is a good Muslim. People are people. There are going to be bad people no matter what they believe. But not everyone is bad.
missallyesterday
^Actually... This country was founded on escaping religious oppression. I was going to type up everything in my own words, but then I thought, "maybe I should check my facts and see if I'm just blowing hot air." This is from the Library of Congress. https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/rel01.html The gist of the first chapter was the reason people started fleeing to America was because of religious persecution, most of those fleeing were Christian and sought a country where they could worship however they wished.
no44prometheus
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xiao_hu
> Rather grand assumptions about somone who you know nothing about. I am not here to argue the merit of my religion or the religion of anyone else on the internet. Merely pointing out something I find ironic. Take it or leave it. Your irony was a personal attack against me, which I refuted. I don't consider it moral when a soup kitchen run by Christians makes you attend a Christian service to get a meal - that's plain old indoctrination. >This country was based off Christian beliefs. Most of the people who sailed here were Christians. Most of the people who fought for the Independence were Christian. You can believe all you want. But there is nothing wrong with Christianity. And Christians do help the poor. No reason to hate the religion. But not everyone is a good Christian. Not everyone is a good Atheist. Not everyone is a good Muslim. People are people. There are going to be bad people no matter what they believe. But not everyone is bad. Thomas Jefferson was a deist. Thomas Paine was a deist. Benjamin Franklin was a deist. Also the first article of the Bill of Rights, in reference to religion, reads: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" In modern English, it means: "Congress cannot pass laws that endorse any one religion, or respect a religion over another. Congress cannot prevent free exercise of any religion." So, the idea this was founded on Christian principles is thrown out. Out the fucking window. And for the record I see Jefferson as the best president, because his beliefs were based on reason. He wrote the Declaration of Independence, the singlemost important document, and yes, over the US Constitution, because it is the direct progenitor of the Constitution. And while most of the founders of the US were Christian, and the majority of immigrants were, by and large, the 1st Amendment gives me not only the right to practice what religion I want, but also the right to say anything, within reason, unabated by you or anyone else. As far as good and evil, these are imprecise terms. Moral and immoral are better because it implies someone with some form of morals. And here's the kicker to this. Most Christians are moral, according to their belief systems, but their belief systems provide a flawed form of morality, reinforced by various laws in the Bible in both old and new testament that promote slavery, misogyny, homophobia and unabated violence as long as a religious leader approves of it. Most atheists I've met are moral. And unlike Christians, their moral systems are more sound because they aren't following a belief system, instead they use reason and the innate human sense of right and wrong, which is entirely ingrained into human DNA at this point, to justify their actions. And while some are rabidly militant and antitheist, they never resort to violence and never resort to methods which are illegal. And the amount of antitheist terrorism in the US ( Hint, its smaller than every other form of terrorism from 1980-2005 according to the FBI ) is so small, so miniscule, that one can safely conclude the atheist community in the US is harmless. Meanwhile, right-wing terrorism committed by Christians is even greater than Jihadist terrorism. That shooting at a Planned Parenthood in Colorado Springs? Christian terrorism. The sins ( heh, see what I did there ) that Christianity has amassed are far outweighing the good. Need I remind anyone, ANYONE about the millenium's worth of scientific oppression from the Christianization of the Roman Empire to the Renaissance era, or the four major and several minor crusades?
darkmagus
Sarcastic desire can have a civil conversation? How surprising.
xiao_hu
Dude don't patronize other people in the thread when you're not even part of the conversation.
darkmagus
uh yeah no, just because you told me to do something dosent mean I will even come close to doing it.Thats not how my life works buddy.
xiao_hu
I'm being nice man. If you want to add something, feel free, we're all ears. But if you've just got something against Sarcastic Desire, take it up with her instead of poisoning this thread.
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