The " Nice guy" and "Friendzone"

I here lots of arguements on what a nice guy expects when he's being nice to a girl he likes. Wanted to share my opinion on the matter. I hate the "friend zone" phrase, but let me clarify what actual nice guys are doing. When a good guy starts to like a girl, instead of out right flirting, because he may be shy, he treats the girl what he perceives as nice, in hopes that she may like him back. It's not always about sex, it's how a genuinely nice guy courts a female. He'll go out of his way for her and say things like " I just want you to be happy". Remember that he isn't expecting sex or her soul, this is just how he courts. So when she goes for a guy who's hurt her, or he feels doesn't treat her right, it confuses him and he's hurt. That's it. He didn't feel like she was obligated to do anything or like she owed him, he just questions what he did wrong, compared to the other guy.

I have almost always played the nice guy role, and that's how I ended up with my current partner. She loves that about me.

Nice guy shouldn't mean doormat. Also, if you want something, go for it. Playing coy does not always work.If you just sit and play the nice guy, don't get mad when the guy who took initiative gets the girl.

nice guy means doormat, though. Women was asshole douchebags, irrespective of the fact they claim they want a good guy. Women can be dicks.

No, nice guy can mean a lot of things to a lot of people. Being considerate is nice, having manners is nice, being respectful is nice, but being a doormat is having no mind of your own and that's not nice at all. Letting someone walk on you is disrespectful to yourself. Being nice doesn't mean you need to disrespect yourself or allow others to either.

I agree with JHFB But i still have some opinions of my own.. In case you dont wanna read all of my shit typing here's a synopsis. SYNOPSIS: - Friendzone is just simply "Romantic Rejection". Rejection that all can go through - Don't get pissed, no pity parties. Just keep calm and carry on. - Maybe her partner is actually "Nice" - Friends are a good thing. - sometimes you're only interested in the chase - when you get the person, you realize how you little you like them - It can hurt someone to if you're being nice to get them rather than just being nice. - people can be picky, just don't get mad when they don't pick you. - people have types - People tend to like people they relate to more than who only "treats them nice". - Normal people actually let the person know they are attracted to let them know they are interested... ANY effort YOU make or do is YOUR choice. Don't get mad or upset when he/she does not feel the same even though you took away from a lot of your time and money trying to get with them. you were not forced to do any of it. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I don't like that the person is refered to as "the nice guy". You're just a dude, She's just a chick. And it's just called Rejection. No need to have a freaking pity party about... It occurs with both genders and it's called life. Besides, what's so bad about being friends??? It's not a death sentence. Plus, it's a dick move to just assume she's with some dude that treats her like shit... What if he treats her like a queen in every way? what if the thing she complained about was just a one time thing... And some folks like the chase. so as soon as the nice guy gets the girl, then they are no longer interested and leave them... that or they stop doing all the nice things they did before. My friends always have a hard time making friends and the ones they usually make are of the opposite gender. But at some point i've always noticed that they (the new friends) will try to get to close and when they learn that there was no possibility of a romantic relationship,they left. And because of those people, most of my friends (male and female) have a hard time trusting that people truly want to be friends and nothing romantic... Plus, if i am going to be brutal as fuck, Guys tend to go after 10s, but they themselves are only 3s & 4s. Then they get mad when the girl picks someone who they are actually attracted to.... There will be girls that ARE attracted to them, but they are not considered. and then that girl is "Friendzoned". but if she is sad about it, people treat her like she's psyco and tell her to move on, but dudes will get in groups to say girls they like are cunts for not feeling the same way. And when i last checked, people have types... I personally won't date "popular people" or "Hardcore Gamers" or "euphoria-tards". I want someone who can be as fucked up as i am. I don't like special treatment and most of the girls i know (the type that would make an account on here or have a steam account) are the same..

Not sure if I elaborated enough that I don't think neither phrase should exist, and that I explained this from the "nice guys" point of view. wasn't explaining a personal experience. Hence why I said " he feels the other guy didn't treat her right". Didn't say that was the case

I didn't assume that it was from experience nor that you believed the term exist. I just wanted to say it on here since there wasn't any of those men and women comments complainging about the person friendzoning and wanted to elaborate on friendzone in general.

I agree with @soraphantomhive opinion. I hate the friend zone too. Just because I don't act like douche and am nice about things. Since I'm bad at flirting. I just go ahead and be nice and act like I normally acted.