swords instead of guns

Most people want to be good and honorable and want an ideal to live up to but there is not much of that in the real world so they latch onto fictional ideals they see in movies are anime like Rurouni Kenshin. But a fictional ideal like that is not applicable in that way in the real world. We can still be good honorable people and do what we can but learning sword fighting skills is not the practical way to do that. But that's just a lesson boys have to learn as they grow to be men.

You know what i agree with you. I just hate having to see them learn it. Hell i hate knowing that guys grow up like this at all. Its often painful and life ruining because it estranges you from the people you care about or you may even end up killing someone. I think sometimes if i could just tell them they would avoid it. But yeah you're right they always learn the hard way.

listen guns are for cowards its so easy to kill with it swords have been used for thousands of years and we should have never stopped using them

Well, to be fair, it can be really easy to kill with swords. And I don't know if it's accurate to judge if something is more honorable by the degree of ease in violent response.

Well I will bite on this thread. You have to ask yourself this. Would you prefer to prolongue the fight or stop it right away. I know there is this whole thing that sword fighting is so long and such with emotions being spilled but thats just a vision we think of when we think of swords. Both swords and guns can kill fast or slow. It all depends on the user and what type of sword or gun it is. I myself prefer neither though guns and swords or any weapon in general even though right now we could not forgo said weapons in the end. Rou is right about the honor and tradition thing though. I would not let honor and tradition get in the way of something such as this. When it comes down to it killing either way for honor or whatever is something that should be thought about very carefully the whole view that swords allow you to do that is a lie it can be the same way with swords just in a different sense. This might sound a bit off but let me use this as a example. A native american tribe not one specifically wants to kill a animal for its meat and fur. Even though they give it a proper ritual for its resources provided by it they still kill it the only difference is they created a whole reason to justify killing it. Not that I am saying we should not kill animals or such since that would be off topic I am just saying honor and tradition can behave just like that.

I agree with Rou as well and although I haven't learned a fighting skill I can relate to his point. There was a turning point for me several years back. My sister and I were fighting about some family related issue. Normally I find it difficult to get angry with people or even hate them, but my sister was always able to bring out my worst side. She made a habit of hitting me, but I refused returned blows because I was raised to believe it was shameful for a guy to hit a woman. That belief aside though, I reached a point in this particular fight when I had the most intense urge to punch my sister in the jaw, hard. But I realized that in that very moment that I wouldn't be able to live with myself if my sister had to walk around missing a tooth because her older brother couldn't control his anger. That was the day that I realized one: I was more than capable of controlling my emotions and the actions that stemmed from them and two: that far too many fights are instigated by matters that are, in the grand scheme of life, insignificant compared to the potential damage. My point is that fighting of any kind really doesn't accomplish anything and I see clearly that all the justifications we use to make it seem right are false. But others don't see it that way because they can't look past the immediate "threat". For so long we've been lead to believe that the only option we have is to fight fire with more fire. There is nothing honorable about fighting, in fact I feel that fighting insults the very definition of Honor.

i love fighting i guees its cause all the dragon ball z i watched i also take taekwondo but whats the point of training so hard to become a figher if someone pulls out a gun and shoots you with swords your actually having a chance guns it over for you

I see now that this thread has sorta avoided the original topic. So if I had to pick, sword. I apologize, but I had to respond to Rou's post.

You are rid of your enemies when you make peace with them. The point, kakashe, is that with all that training one would realize there isnt a point to fighting at all and a person who trains that much wouldn't care about such things. it certainly wouldn't bother them if in the hypothetical situation they'd be killed with a gun instantly. Someone who's trained enough would probably even think they deserve it should they be stupid enough to get into a situation where they would be shot. All of that training results in a mindset in which you'd never want to fight at all. THAT was the original point. After all the fighting the true warrior just wants to seek out harmony with their surroundings so that there wouldn't have to be any fighting anymore, ending all fights before they even begin. Winning at life. You seem to be concentrating on the unfairness and the wasted effort of learning. Look at it this way, its way harder to live life conflict free and in harmony, controlling oneself. Sure, because of today's whacked out society you don't get much recognition for living that way but its way harder than learning to use a sword. It takes years of trial and error to achieve the wisdom you'd need to avoid fights and respect the value of life. It takes much more skill to live in harmony with and take care of other human beings than to simply overpower them. Yu, Hirakuga , im glad you guys agree.

I have both. not for any other reason but the zombie apocalypse that is inevitable and on its way. There's no such thing as an honorable fight unless it is staged. Even then, it's just for show. People use that term 'honorable' to tug at a man's pride and see if they can get them to fight on their level, wether it's with a gun or sword. If I'm gonna fight someone, I'm trying to kill that person. fuck the method, I'd use a brick if I could.